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Chrysler 300: Alignment Issues

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#60 of 219
Scoop on pull to the right by mark_a
Jul 20, 2004 (5:06 am)
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Here's something I read on another site

Guys,
 
While at Camp Jeep I met the new head of the LX program. He just finished heading up design on the new Grand Cherokee (which will be OUTSTANDING) and has been heading up LX stuff for about 2 weeks. He was telling us all kinds of stories about flogging Jeeps mercilessly and doing all kinds of crazy stuff with them. Exactly the kind of guy I want to talk to.
 
Anyway, I ask him about the right pull and he told me the problem is, well, motor-heads. Apparently the suspension engineers were focused on performance and wouldn't notice or care about a crown sensitivity. He told me this is his number one customer issue and it will be corrected. My impression is that he is very focused on customer satsfaction.
 
I asked about production tolerances etc and he said no, it was a design issue.
 
He told me to expect a TSB with revised alignment specs after they test to be sure that there would not be new issues like excessive tire wear.
 
I heard it from the horse's mouth. I guess we can all take a deep breath and wait for the TSB.
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Re: Scoop on pull to the right [mark_a] by jeep
Jul 20, 2004 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: mark_a (Jul 20, 2004 5:06 am)

This is all well and good, except that if it was a design issue, we would all have the problem. Mine as well as others have not had this problem. How can that be explained?
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issue: pull to the right, MAJOR CAR DEFECT by jeqq
Jul 25, 2004 (9:00 pm)
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I test drove two 300c's so far.
 
The second one initially had a immediate and rather severe pull to the right . However, it had no pull for the remainder of a 30 minute test drive. I am positive, and I repeat positive, it was not due to road crown.
 
I must say something that many of you may not like to hear. Even if this pull to the right is sometimes attributed to road crown,(and again I am sure that was not the case with me) there is a major problem with this car. No car should ever handle like that if road crown exists. I could have had a car accident, had I not been a good driver and concentrating on the road at that particular moment. I could see someone possibly having an accident if in that time frame they were not on top of their driving. All it would take would be one momentary lapse in concentration or your hand momentarily off the wheel and the car goes off the road, or maybe something worse. We all have had these moments. I would not trust this car, it could have a horribly deadly outcome.
 
Has anyone else experienced this severe momentary pull to the right?
 
P.S.
 
There is a post somewhere in the forums about a car accident attributed to this problem. I think 300c owners should start a class action lawsuit and have Chrysler recall and fix this steering problem immediately. Please do not wait until more cars are out there on the road.
#63 of 219
Re: issue: pull to the right, MAJOR CAR DEFECT [jeqq] by nmatson
Jul 26, 2004 (5:57 am)
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Replying to: jeqq (Jul 25, 2004 9:00 pm)

It sounds to me like there are many people out there who are not used to driving a rear wheel drive with a european designed steering system.
 
The 300C is a pleasure to drive (mine now has 3800 miles on her) - no you can't just sit there and have it drive you - you need to be alert to feel of the road and the car. I have been pleasurably surprised at the handling and road feel of the steering. For a big car, with lots of power it drives beautifully.
 
I don't deny that there has been TSB issued for early build models to correct a pull but all the owners of the 300C that I have talked to agree that the car's handling is exceptional.
 
Before you start talking class action law suite I think you might want to do some further driving in one of these cars. Even in your post you say it was a momentary pull which is far more indicative of road surface conditions than any fault of the car.
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Re: issue: pull to the right, MAJOR CAR DEFECT [nmatson] by jeqq
Jul 26, 2004 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: nmatson (Jul 26, 2004 5:57 am)

I currently drive a European car and have been for the last seven of my thirty-three years of driving many types of cars. When operating a motor vehicle I am very aware of the road and the cars around me. My driving skills are are exceptionally good.
 
My point was not only that it was a momentary pull, but a very severe one. Again, if I had a lapse in concentration the wheel could have ripped out of my hands. No steering should ever react like that, European, American or Japanese.
 
Chrysler should immediately fix this dangerous defect before it gets
out of hand. The more cars out there the more the risk to the public.
Unfortunately, as we have seen many times in corporate america, they look only at the hard numbers and react only when it is financially beneficial to them.
 
Fix this issue and the 300c will be a great car for the money.
#65 of 219
Re: issue: pull to the right, MAJOR CAR DEFECT [jeqq] by arnoldw
Jul 26, 2004 (3:25 pm)
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Replying to: jeqq (Jul 25, 2004 9:00 pm)

If it felt so dangerous WHY did you keep driving it for a half hour???
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Re: issue: pull to the right, MAJOR CAR DEFECT by mark_a
Jul 26, 2004 (5:58 pm)
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Replying to: arnoldw (Jul 26, 2004 3:25 pm)

Next time check to make sure the wheels are straight before you put it in drive.
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Re: issue: pull to the right, MAJOR CAR DEFECT [arnoldw] by jeqq
Jul 26, 2004 (6:39 pm)
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Replying to: arnoldw (Jul 26, 2004 3:25 pm)

As I have stated before, the car has great potential. You don't have this problem with your car, so to you it's a non issue. What if you were in the group who does?
 
During my test drive it only happened once. Only after reading other posts about steering problems did I understand what I had experienced.
 
All cars have their issues, however steering is a major concern.
There is no way I would buy a car that has a steering problem.
 
Chrysler needs to be honest about this and fix it right away.
#68 of 219
Re: issue: pull to the right, MAJOR CAR DEFECT [jeqq] by arnoldw
Jul 26, 2004 (7:41 pm)
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Replying to: jeqq (Jul 26, 2004 6:39 pm)

So what do you think caused it? How fast were you going? Was the road flat or bumpy ? Sticky caliper? Could you duplicate it if you went down the same route?
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Re: issue: pull to the right, MAJOR CAR DEFECT [arnoldw] by jeqq
Jul 27, 2004 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: arnoldw (Jul 26, 2004 7:41 pm)

I don't know what caused it to happen. Road was well paved, straight, no bank or grade to it. It happened real quick. and then after recovery it did not happen again. By the way, I also noticed a steering wheel shimmy over forty MPH if you hit rough spots or cracks in the road. Maybe this has something to do with the pull to the right steering problem. The same steering wheel shimmy happened on my first test drive.
 
The rest of the drive was impressive. Car handles real well, very quiet, roomy interior and lots of power. I do have a dislike for the autostick. I drive an audi and the tiptronic is much more driver friendly. When engaged you can immediately disengage back into drive by moving the shifter back into the main drive slot. Autostick makes you hold the stick in position until it runs through all the gears and then back into drive. This does not allow shifting to be responsive when you need it. With tiptronic I can immediately shift up and down and go back into drive without having to think about it. With autostick you have to keep an eye on the gear readout when trying to go back into drive. I mostly use my tiptronic to decelerate my car or to hold a gear, then I pop it back into drive. It's a great tool to have. If I'm wrong about autostick please let me know. The salesman did not know how to use it.
 
Fix the steering, improve the auto stick, add on all wheel drive and it will be an even better car. I'll buy one too.

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