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Chrysler 300: Alignment Issues

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Re: 300C Right Pull [mikec1] by weidnerlaw
Aug 03, 2004 (9:23 am)
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Replying to: mikec1 (Jun 14, 2004 4:23 pm)

Did the pulling resolve?
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Steering and Right Pull by mikec1
Jun 15, 2004 (8:52 pm)
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Regarding the right pull, I noticed it at about 10 miles on the odometer. I do chalk much of it up to crown sensativity. There are however new alignment specs posted with the TSB that could lessen the pull if your 300C has the correct cam bolts and the production date is close to the changes made after April 25th. I will know sometime next week if the new specs matter.
 
Regarding the comment about the shimmy on bumps, I noticed this too, and decided it occurs because the car is rear wheel drive, and most of us have not driven a rear wheel drive vehicle in a long time. The weight differential without the transmission over the front axle may have something to do with it as well. Weight balance is 50/50 over front and rear axles in the 300C providing superior traction when the ESP is engaged.
 
I assure you that with the ESP on, this car is as stable as any when cornering on virtually any road condition. It is nearly impossible to lose contact with the pavement in drastic maneuvers. I do not notice shimmy at all now that I am comfortable with the feel and think it is more how the 300C transmits the road to the steering wheel than any kind of problem. I have suggested elsewhere that the 300C needs an adjustable suspension for sport or cruising modes. I could see where this would concern you unless you had a chance to put the car through the paces.
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Re: Steering and Right Pull [mikec1] by mr1340
Oct 16, 2004 (2:10 pm)
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Replying to: mikec1 (Jun 15, 2004 8:52 pm)

You must work for Chrysler, I have a 1972 Olds 442 that steers better over bumps on the highway, not to mention it does not pull to the right. Something needs to be done about this front end and the tire wear etc
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pulling to the right by buckie
Jul 14, 2004 (9:45 am)
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brand new 300C, pulling to right, just like everybody else. cannot find TSB??? where to look? solution? Is Chrysler buying back this clunker or not? helppp....dealer completely unresponsive.
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Re: pulling to the right [buckie] by bjsohio
Jul 14, 2004 (10:57 am)
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Replying to: buckie (Jul 14, 2004 9:45 am)

TSB 0200304. It involves new camber bolts. From what I've heard it fixes the pulling problem experienced on some (or most) early built 300s.
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Re: pulling to the right [bjsohio] by buckie
Jul 15, 2004 (4:37 am)
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Replying to: bjsohio (Jul 14, 2004 10:57 am)

hi. I have the number of the TSB, but when I go to the NHTSA web site, no such TSB for the 300C or 300 or Chrysler is listed. so, I can't find the actual content of that particular TSB. any idea where I can locate the actual document? thanks, buckie
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Re: pulling to the right [buckie] by hankc
Jul 15, 2004 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: buckie (Jul 15, 2004 4:37 am)

NUMBER: 02-003-04
DATE: May 25, 2004
 
SUBJECT:
Right Lead
 
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves adjusting the alignment to revised specifications.
 
MODELS:
2005 (LX) 300/Magnum
 
NOTE: This bulletin applies to vehicles built prior to April 25, 2004 (MDH 0425XX).
 
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
The vehicle operator states the vehicle leads to the right.
 
DIAGNOSIS:
Drive the car on a FLAT road. If the car tracks straight, the vehicle operator is experiencing crown sensitivity. If the vehicle tracks to the right, perform the Repair Procedure. Crown sensitivity can not be eliminated in all the cases. Vehicles built on or after April 25, 2004 already have the alignment biased and no further action should be required or taken by the dealer other than verifying the vehicle is set at the revised specifications listed in this bulletin.
 
NOTE: Before evaluating the vehicle, it is important to check the following:
1. Tire pressure - Adjust tire pressure (if necessary) in all four wheels to the pressure stated on the door placard.
2. Tire size & type - Verify that all four tires are the same size and type.
 
NOTE: When evaluating the vehicle, always drive the same road in both directions to get a feel for the effect of road crown & cross wind.
 
SPECIAL TOOLS/EQUIPMENT REQUIRED:
NPN Alignment Equipment
 
REPAIR PROCEDURE:
1. Use the procedures outlined on TechCONNECT to set the wheel alignment to the specifications below.
 
 
NUMBER: 02-003-04
GROUP: Suspension
DATE: May 25, 2004
 
NOTE: When aligning the front end to induce right caster bias (the vehicle will tend to track toward the side with the least positive caster), target the cross caster to be -0.8 degree and no more than -1.3 degrees. That means you will have more caster on the right than on the left. Cross camber should be set in at +0.2 - +0.3 degree. That means you will have more camber on the left than on the right. Utilize the cradle shift method PRIOR to using the caster/camber adjustment bolt kit, p/n 05134117AA. The adjustment bolts only provide about 0.2 - 0.3 degree change and should only be used as a last resort. When shifting the cradle, the passenger side of the cradle will move forward in car and the driver's side will move rearward in car.
 
NOTE: After the cradle has been shifted, torque all 4 cradle bolts to 175Nm (130 ft. lbs.).
 
CAUTION: If an adjustment bolt is to be installed do not allow the bolt head to turn during disassembly or assembly, the cradle tension link joint or the lower control arm bushing inner metal sleeve will be destroyed and require replacement. THE NUT MUST BE UNTORQUED AND REMOVED, BEFORE THE BOLT. Once the nut is removed the bolt can be slid out.
 
REVISED ALIGNMENT SPECIFICATIONS
 
FRONT WHEEL ALIGNMENT PREFERRED SETTING ACCEPTABLE RANGE
CAMBER - LEFT -0.1° -0.60° to +0.40°
CAMBER - RIGHT -0.20° -0.70° to +0.30°
Cross-Camber (Maximum side-to-side difference) 0.20° -0.30 to +0.60°
CASTER - LEFT +10.30° +9.00° to +12.10°
CASTER - RIGHT +11.10° +9.00° to +12.10°
Cross-Caster (Maximum side-to-side difference) -0.80° -1.30 to -0.50°
INDIVIDUAL TOE 0.10° -0.05° to +0.15°
TOTAL TOE** +0.20° 0.00° to +0.40°
Maximum side-to-side difference 0.00° 0.06°
RIDE HEIGHT - INDIVIDUAL 328mm (12 15/16 in.) 318 to 338mm (12 1/2 to 13 3/8 in.)
CROSS RIDE HEIGHT 0 -12 to +12mm (1/2 in.)
 
REAR WHEEL ALIGNMENT PREFERRED SETTING ACCEPTABLE RANGE
 
CAMBER* -0.75° -1.25° to -0.25°
Cross-Camber (Maximum side-to-side difference) 0.00° -0.50 to 0.50°
INDIVIDUAL TOE 0.10° -0.05° to +0.25°
 
02-003-04 -2-
FRONT WHEEL ALIGNMENT PREFERRED SETTING ACCEPTABLE RANGE
THRUST ANGLE 0.0° -0.50° to +0.50°
RIDE HEIGHT - INDIVIDUAL 296mm (11 5/8 in.) 286 to 306mm (11 1/4 to 12 in.)
CROSS RIDE HEIGHT 0 -12 to +12mm (1/2 in.)
 
Notes:
Vehicle height and suspension alignment values reflect after vehicle spring settling values.
* For reference only. These are non-adjustable angles.
** TOTAL TOE is the sum of both left and right wheel toe settings. TOTAL TOE must be equally
split between each front wheel to ensure the steering wheel is centered after setting toe. Positive
toe is toe-in and negative toe is toe-out
 
POLICY:
Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty.
 
TIME ALLOWANCE:
Labor Operation No: Description Amount
02-00-02-90 Set Front and Rear Toe / Center Steering Wheel 0.7 Hrs.
02-00-01-91 Alignment Using Cradle Adjustment and Set
Front and Rear Toe / Center Steering Wheel
1.0 Hrs.
 
FAILURE CODE:
LM Leads Right
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Re: pulling to the right [hankc] by jlm
Jul 16, 2004 (6:03 am)
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Replying to: hankc (Jul 15, 2004 9:28 am)

Chrysler bought back my 300 this week due to this issue. the dealer could not fix it, TSB was useless, it had no effect. dealer states they tried several different procedures, no luck on any.
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Re: pulling to the right [jlm] by dkrhardy
Jul 16, 2004 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: jlm (Jul 16, 2004 6:03 am)

Bought it back? You sound very calm about the whole thing, did you make a profit? Break even? You are the 1st I've heard that actually got bought out. Many claim they are going to force that issue, but no one else has responded with an actual buyback.

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