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Chrysler 300: Alignment Issues

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Re: Starting to pull to the right [jasonlc12] -1 YEAR AND STILL PULLIN! [evilgreco] [evilgreco] [1952] by evilgreco
Jul 17, 2006 (10:28 am)
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Replying to: 1952 (Jul 16, 2006 9:12 am)

Thanks...I need all the luck I can get!! I was hoping it would even get this far...but they are fighting me all the way. From what I understand New or Used, with Massachusetts Lemon Laws, if a car has a dangerous problem, and the dealer tries 3 times to fix it, and it is still not working properlly, then the car is a "Lemon" and must be bought back. I guess it all comes donw to if the judge feels that the car is driving "to spec" as DM keeps saying, or if it really is faulty.
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Crown Sensitive 300C AWD by rolsto
Jan 18, 2006 (1:55 pm)
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My 300C now has 18000 miles on it. After prox 5000 miles I asked a tech to drive it as it was "all over the road" He claimed I had the notorious right hand pull. Several days later they had the car for one day and completed the multipage TSB. I really noticed no definite right hand pull previously and now I saw no difference in the handling, simply VERY crown sensitive to the road. Last time I was at the dealers I mentioned the all over the road syndrome so I later took it back at their request for a complete alignment check. Was told it should improve but want the car for another day so they can consult with a factory tech as the were not satisfied with the results. That day will be next week.
I must say this dealer is doing his best and the overall service has been astounding.
The only other annoying "problem" is the out side temp. display always shows four to eight degrees too high. They already did the TSB becouse it was sticking on one number. Other than always subtracting five degrees....any ideas.
Have had no tranny or engine problems so far.
I will be very happy with the car when and if I can stop keeping two hands on the wheel on back roads.
Oh.....Those puncture proof Conti's do puncture with a very small nail.
Thank goodness foa great five star dealer.
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Re: Crown Sensitive 300C AWD [rolsto] by vic10
Jan 20, 2006 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: rolsto (Jan 18, 2006 1:55 pm)

Glad to read your note: Misery loves company. Although my C isn't AWD, the front end is very sensitive. At first I thought it was because I haven't driven a RWD in 20 years (My Intrepid company car felt much more directionally solid). But now I'm thinking it's design geometry. On the highway you just have to deal with road crown. But on secondary roads, it's almost squirrelly. A two hander as you state. Since it doesn't have the notorious RH pull, and the tires are wearing evenly and well, I'm not about to have the dealer fiddle with the alignment. If your dealer finds a fix for you, please post it. Thanks.........
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Re: Crown Sensitive 300C AWD [vic10] by mike_sp1
Feb 07, 2006 (8:06 pm)
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Replying to: vic10 (Jan 20, 2006 7:14 am)

My 300C tends to wander around and has absolutely NO "feel" of the road at all. I have been used to front wheel drives for many years, but all of them had some sort of steering dampening with their rack and pinion steering. It would seem to me that DC should install some sort of steering dampening to allow better and safer control of the car--especially going around curves, over potholes and on Missouri's winding back roads. The 300C MAY go 158 mph, but IMHO, it would not be safe above 90 on a level, straight highway. It is still a fun and comfy car--just not very good handling.
 
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Re: Crown Sensitive 300C AWD [mike_sp1] by vic10
Feb 08, 2006 (8:43 am)
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Replying to: mike_sp1 (Feb 07, 2006 8:06 pm)

Thirty years ago I was buying new tires for my Firebird and the salesman insisted I needed an alignment. The car had been driving perfectly. I agreed, and after fighting the car for the next 500 miles, I took it to another shop and they asked if I had been in an accident because the front end was totally messed up. I have to wonder if the overly sensitive front end combined with road crown have caused many owners to "think" they have the real RH pull problem. Combine that with a dealer who is a bit overly zealous in trying to satisfy the owner and he puts in what he thinks is an alignment compensation and, voila, you end up with a totally messed up car that'll wear out tires in 10K miles. As for my previous comment about a squirrel-y front end, I think it's me plus suspension geometry. I tried going down a very uneven road which normally had me wandering all over the place, and firmly locked my arms in one position. Guess what? No wander. My being tossed by the suspension (which I think is too firm, even considering the Hemi) lead me to input small steering motions and that caused the wandering. Like acoustic feedback, I was fighting my own inputs. May not be everyone's problem but it was mine.
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300C AWD Crown Sensitive. by rolsto
Feb 07, 2006 (1:05 pm)
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To Vic10 and all those iterested in any found solutions to the Crown Sensitive (aka right hand pull) problem. The answer is NO. After the third alignment the dealer dropped the "belly Pan" and found a loose bolt on the engine cradle. They tightened that to specs and again checked the toe in. A tech road testsaid it was fine. I guess it is as good as it is going to get but it is far from being good. In this area almost all roads have a slight to severe slant to the right and with most driving this feels like a right hand pull. On a PERFECTLY FLAT section of highway it goes straight but this is a rare thing. I sometimes wonder if this extreme road crown sensitivity is not what is being called the notorious right hand pull. I still have two years on my lease so I will have to live with it. After plus 18000 miles my Conti's still look good....will probably go for another 10000.
No engine or tranny problems. Overall mileage with mixed driving is a bit under 16MPG.
A stranger said to me yesterday...."nice car, how do you like it?" Let me say I dont think he will be driving a 300 any day soon.
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Poor road feel and vague steering normal? by mike_sp1
Aug 07, 2006 (12:01 pm)
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My '06 300C has been owned 12 months and has 16,000 miles on it and has always had VERY poor road "feel" and vague steering when on winding and/or undulating roads. It does well on city streets and Interstates, but after renting a Cadillac CTS and even a Toyota Sienna on a couple of vacations in which winding Ozark roads and Oregon mountain and coastal winding roads were traveled, I now realize how poor the steering system is in my 300C. Had I used it on these winding roads, it is likely that I would have missed one of the many curves. It does go straight without hands on wheel and does not pull to either side and seems to be wearing the tires evenly. Preferring to trust owners over any 5* shops around where I live, I am wondering if the steering on undulating and winding roads as I have described for my 300C typical of the breed or the exception? (except for that issue and a rattle in the sunroof, I have had no problems needing a dealer and since I have little faith in most service shops would prefer to hear from other owners before approaching a local 5*).
 
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Re: Poor road feel and vague steering normal? [mike_sp1] by xtec
Aug 07, 2006 (3:43 pm)
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Replying to: mike_sp1 (Aug 07, 2006 12:01 pm)

Mike-The first time I drove my car,the steering was one of things I noticed.I been driving mopars for 36 years and always had a firm feel in the steering.For some reason the LX cars has a soft steering which remind me of GM cars.I'm getting use to it now but your not the first one to complain about the steering.I read a article today about the
Charger police cars and it mention that the cop cars will have a firmer steering then stock.Maybe Chrysler will read some of these messages and make some changes.As for your sunroof rattle,there is a tech bulletin for that.Its 23-002-06 Jan.06.
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DON'T COMPLAIN TO THE DEALER !! by vic10
Aug 08, 2006 (7:00 am)
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Replying to: mike_sp1 (Aug 07, 2006 12:01 pm)

I think more than half of the problems relating to alignment/pulling/tire-wear are due to dealers trying to "correct" a steering problem that is a design characteristic rather than a problem. I wouldn't call my impression poor road feel, but rather overly responsive road feel. Unless I plant my arms firmly on the wheel on irregular 2ndary roads, I end up going all over the place. Have since gotten use to it (22K miles) and have learned not to over correct. That was my biggest problem. Now I'd have to rate handling as way above average for a car this size and weight (Still have the Conti's installed and don't think that's a particular asset....).
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Re: DON'T COMPLAIN TO THE DEALER !! [vic10] by xtec
Aug 09, 2006 (6:33 pm)
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Replying to: vic10 (Aug 08, 2006 7:00 am)

There is another thing I like to say about the steering.
Check your air pressure on your tires.If you have to much you may wonder more.I have the dealer put in 36lbs in all my tires,and you get a good ride,plus more grip.Try that and see if it helps.Sometimes the dealer put to much air in.
Good Luck

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