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Re: Fit go power [thatsmycall] by raychuang00
Apr 29, 2006 (8:51 am)
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Replying to: thatsmycall (Apr 29, 2006 7:29 am)

The AT is better than the 5AT on the van, and seems to spin the motor just a little faster at 60.
 
I think that's because 5AT on the Fit is very closely related to the 5AT unit on the 2006 Civic, one that has torque converter lockup at all gears; that feature is not commonly found in automatic tranmisssions from European cars!
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Re: Fit go power [raychuang00] by cecirdr
Apr 29, 2006 (9:45 am)
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Replying to: raychuang00 (Apr 29, 2006 8:51 am)

Could you explain what torque converter lockup is? I was wanting the manual transmission, but am now second guessing since it runs at higher rpms at interstate speeds. I need to do a good bit of highway miles and want a quieter ride. Plus...if it's revving higher than the auto, how does it get better gas mileage on the highway?
 
Thanks.
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Re: Fit go power [cecirdr] by claudius753
Apr 29, 2006 (11:11 pm)
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Replying to: cecirdr (Apr 29, 2006 9:45 am)

Automatic transmissions are different from manuals in that on a manual transmission, when you let out the clutch, the engine and transmission are directly linked.
 
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/torque-converter.htm will help you understand how a torque converter works.
 
Why would a manual get better mileage on the highway? It gets better on the highway by EPA measure. On a long trip at a constant speed where the auto stays in lock up condition, and thus lower RPM, the auto probably would actually get better mileage. The accelerating and decelerating in the EPA test probably result in the manual being slightly higher.
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Re: Fit go power [thatsmycall] by micweb
Apr 30, 2006 (7:47 am)
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Replying to: thatsmycall (Apr 29, 2006 7:29 am)

You said in part:
 
My brother in law, tries out the paddle shifters. I guess he doesn't really understand the concept of shifting. He grabs at the downshift, drops it down to first doing 45mph,
 
This is why I recommended trying to get a Fit with fewer than 10 miles on it (you are the first driver) (not a hard thing to do since they are flying off the lots). Unlike, say, a Buick Lucerne, Fit test drivers are aggressive in their test drives.
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You all should have got the MT by carfanatic007
Jun 09, 2006 (3:32 pm)
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I have to tell you, no matter what you read, hear or speak, the MT is the way to go. Those paddle shifters are a joke. I test drove one, it is a gimmick. They don't do anything special. The only way to get the most out of your little 1500cc engine is to drive the manual 5 spd. If you don't know how to drive a manual, learn!
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Re: You all should have got the MT [carfanatic007] by johnnyvj
Jun 09, 2006 (4:56 pm)
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Replying to: carfanatic007 (Jun 09, 2006 3:32 pm)

I have to tell you, no matter what you read, hear or speak, the MT is the way to go. Those paddle shifters are a joke. I test drove one, it is a gimmick. They don't do anything special.
 
Odd... Car and Driver, in its one-page test in the June issue of a Fit Sport AT, seemed to like the paddle shifters very much. Though they did agree that they still prefer manual.
 
Still, they much preferred the paddles to a conventional automatic.
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Re: You all should have got the MT [carfanatic007] by gearhead1
Jun 10, 2006 (12:07 am)
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Replying to: carfanatic007 (Jun 09, 2006 3:32 pm)

I have to tell you, no matter what you read, hear or speak, the MT is the way to go. Those paddle shifters are a joke.
 
odd, jeff at TOV is a manual fanatic, has much more experierience than you, and he prefers the AT/paddles in the Fit. It is the first time he has preferred an AT over the manual. I have driven the paddles for over a month and I concur with the expert at TOV. I specifically wanted the MT SPort, but after driving the paddles it was an easy decision to pass on the MT. Your wrong, the paddles are no joke. They perform immediatly and shift faster than you can with the MT. The Fit performs great with the paddles. I've also read other reviews that support this opinion as well. If you don't know how to drive with the paddles, learn!
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Re: You all should have got the MT [gearhead1] by carfanatic007
Jun 10, 2006 (2:16 am)
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Replying to: gearhead1 (Jun 10, 2006 12:07 am)

Well, I have been driving manuals for quite some time and consider myself to be an "expert". I guess to each there own. I still prefer the manual any day to an automatic with or without paddles!
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Re: You all should have got the MT [carfanatic007] by hungarian83
Jun 10, 2006 (11:51 am)
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Replying to: carfanatic007 (Jun 10, 2006 2:16 am)

"I still prefer the manual any day to an automatic with or without paddles!"
 
I completely agree, but the paddle shifters aren't just a gimmick since they do allow for more control. However, nothing beats the real thing.
 
Someone recently criticized my purchase of the Fit with the 5MT, since in their opinion they would only purchase an automatic. Their reasoning was that they can't talk on the cell phone or drink coffee with the manual.
(like that is bad thing?!)
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Re: You all should have got the MT [hungarian83] by backy
Jun 10, 2006 (11:54 am)
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Replying to: hungarian83 (Jun 10, 2006 11:51 am)

LOL! Why would anyone be drinking coffee when they might be shifting? Same for using a cell phone. There are always hands-free phones and headsets for people who must talk on the phone while on the road. And I suppose a camel pack (insulated) for the coffee.

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