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Re: Shifting from D to S while driving? [crowb] by bobw3
Nov 22, 2006 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: crowb (Nov 22, 2006 8:52 am)

So the S mode is really no different than the L mode in most automatics.
 
That makes sense, because when I'm on the highway in D and I want to put it in S to keep the car in 5th gear, when I first shift from D to S, the car downshifts to 4th gear, and then I just use the paddle shifters to put it back in 5th. I originally did this because I wasn't sure if the transmission was really sensitive and would drop to 4th every time I pressed the gas on the highway when I was in 5th, but after a week of driving, it seems like D works fine on the highway and it stays in 5th unless you really press down hard on the gas.
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Re: Shifting from D to S while driving? [bobw3] by crowb
Nov 22, 2006 (11:39 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Nov 22, 2006 9:00 am)

I guess it depends on your definition of "press hard on the gas". In our area we have some moderate elevation, and in certain areas the Fit will shift into 4th even with a minimal touch on the gas (i.e. you are trying to maintain speed on an incline).
 
I like your solution: shift into S, and then paddle shift into 5th. That would be especially useful on long trips I imagine. I have just tried to be mindful of the terrain and my speed while driving. If it looks like the transmission might shift into 4th on me when I don't need it, I will bump the paddle shifter up. My theory on this is that it momentarily reinforces 5th gear on the car, so that it won't shift out of it for a few seconds. I have no idea if what I'm doing is actually helping though. I still have to pay attention to the road after all
 
So far the transmission on the Fit has taken some getting used to. My old automatic was a three speed that wouldn't downshift without orders signed in triplicate
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Re: Shifting from D to S while driving? [crowb] by patriot11789
Jul 29, 2007 (5:51 pm)
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Replying to: crowb (Nov 22, 2006 8:52 am)

the clutch in a paddle shift system is electronic right? in terms of racing...can the transmission or clutch itself be damaged by shift timing?
#40 of 143
Re: Shifting from D to S while driving? [patriot11789] by redandy
Aug 03, 2007 (8:30 am)
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Replying to: patriot11789 (Jul 29, 2007 5:51 pm)

There is no clutch on an AT fit, with or without the paddle shifters. The paddle shifters simply allow 'manumatic' shifting of the car; the transmission itself is is still a conventional AT with a torque converter.
 
It's the same functionality as many other AT cars that let you 'bump' the AT transmission, except that the interface is via paddles rather than on the stick on the floor.
 
The car will not let you shift inappropriately - if you try to go into a gear that would take the car past redline, the car ignores the command and won't shift.
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Re: Shifting from D to S while driving? [redandy] by eldaino
Aug 28, 2007 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: redandy (Aug 03, 2007 8:30 am)

in the fits defense though, while it may not be an actual dual clutch auto, the time it takes the engine to process when you want to shift with the paddles is fantastic: my rabbit would make a noticable pause before shifting when i told it to, whereas the fit seems more ager to please and snappy in this regard.
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Keeping the gear indicator lit on my Fit by pfleggs
Sep 02, 2007 (8:13 am)
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Blue 5AT.
 
Does anyone else think it would be helpful to have the gear indicator always lit while in "D" mode?
 
Coming off a manual transmission, I am thankful that there are paddle shifters to give me control over engine breaking. My only stink is that I don't know what gear I'm in until after I give a paddle a squeeze. Has anyone heard about firmware upgrades that would keep the gear indicator always lit. I know that in 'S' mode I can select clutchless manual, but with only 1800 miles, I haven't explored this option yet.
 
The main reason
  One reason for my request stems from a time I was engine breaking down a hill and accidentally put it into 2nd when the car had already put itself into 3rd. Anyone who likes to paddle-shift their Fit knows how different the ratios are between 2nd and 3rd. It is an uncomfortable experience for you and your passengers when you don't expect it.
 
Another reason occurs on my daily commute, when climbing a hill with the need to pass, I like to drop it down to 3rd, but if the car is in 4th and the computer allows it, I might find myself in 2nd when I don't want to be. This isn't quite as big a deal, because I should be looking more at my RPMs and what band will give me an adequate amount of horses and torque.
    
I guess it's the dreaded 2nd gear that I fear. Putting it into 3rd seems to be the best for passing and engine breaking. Also I'm used to selecting a gear and then giving it gas. Now I just mash down a peddle and hope I give it enough 'gas' so that the logic puts it into the right gear.
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Re: Keeping the gear indicator lit on my Fit [pfleggs] by bobw3
Sep 03, 2007 (12:39 pm)
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Replying to: pfleggs (Sep 02, 2007 8:13 am)

I think the problem is that you're trying to drive an automatic like a manual. If you want to drive the Fit as a manual, then just leave it in the sport mode. But when it's D, then treat it as an automatic, so like any automatic, if you need to pass, then simply press the gas and it will downshift based on how much throttle you give it. I think it would be destracting to see every gear change when the car was in Drive.
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Re: Keeping the gear indicator lit on my Fit [bobw3] by eldaino
Sep 04, 2007 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Sep 03, 2007 12:39 pm)

agreed. But even so, when you activate the shift paddles in 'D' it does show you what gear you are in; but having this constantly change with or without the paddles would be useless, since no automatic has ever shown this unless you were in some type of 'sport auto' mode.
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Re: Keeping the gear indicator lit on my Fit [eldaino] by pfleggs
Sep 08, 2007 (4:06 pm)
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Replying to: eldaino (Sep 04, 2007 9:00 am)

Well you are right, I am trying to drive an AT like a manual. I've had a stick for the last 20 years of driving. I can understand what you mean by it being distracting to have gear changes come up on the dash. Remember the old "shift now" lamps that would flash on the dash?. I guess I like enginbreaking and getting my RPMs up before giving the car gas.
 
The main reason I asked was because of the ratio gap between 2nd and 3rd. I was engine breaking on a hill and stuck it in 2nd. The engine could handle this, but it was unexpected.
 
I haven't gotten used to full manual mode. I do like those shift paddles.
#46 of 143
Engine revving up when shifting manual transmission by hsipes
Apr 05, 2007 (6:09 pm)
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