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Bought my '09 5M last week thru C4C, just over 500 mi now. I really appreciate so much about the car and am enjoying it immensely except pulled into garage and when very quiet (no stereo, no fan), when in neutral w/ clutch pedal out, heard a slight constant noise. Then pressed clutch in and it went quiet. Half way thru the clutch stroke could modulate that sound with a half inch movement of the clutch pedal, making noise appear and disappear. Took in for warranty repair documenting the problem on paper but not demonstrating it to them. Service couldn't hear the problem, calling me to say to come pick car up. Nicely, dragged Svc Mgr outside and had him listen as I operated pedal (should have done this in the morning). He said "that's not right". He got in the driver's seat and under the hood, spending about 10 minutes with it. Before I left, he assured me he'd see to it that it was taken care of. He called Honda Engineering and called me to say that Engineering aurthorized him to have me bring car in for a transmission disassembly. I delivered it yest morn and he's estimating they'll have it four days, thru Friday. He's been very helpful and introduced me to the lead mechanic who would be tearing it down. Nice professional man - assured me he would find the problem! I expressed concern that its a new car and I still want a new car when I pick it up. Again, he assured me everything would work out fine. Gave me a free loaner - '09 black on black leather Accord Coupe with 5500 mi. Is it sweet and nearly twice as expensive as my Fit. I still prefer my FIT! Even though I'm concerned, just need to have faith they'll make it right. I do understand your various problems and great concerns when various ones of you are having these problems and not getting the attention you need. If your individual cases were mine, I'd get ahold of the Service Manager's ear and drag him out to your car. Put him in the passenger's seat like I did and demonstrate the problem. Don't be nervous or fearing that you're taking up too much of his time. You've spent 5 figures on your Fit and it should work correctly. Go for that drive and have him note the problems. If you're out on the road for 30 minutes, so be it. You're in control cause you're in the driver's seat. Be courteous and respectful while being straightforward and insistent. Ask him to note the problems on a pad of paper. Then, if neccessary, ask to come back and jump into a new Fit for a test drive, noting none of the problems you're having with your individual car. I'd keep at him, again kindly and respectfully, till he says he'll get to the bottom of your problem. He does not want a scene in front of other customers when you return to the dealership. Be willing to make one, if he wants to blow you off. You might have to get kinda tough with him. Just remember, you paid good money and the car is not right! While reasoning with him, he should give a darn that one of his cars is running around out there with a tranny problem. If he makes an ignorant comment like "I'm not authorized to work on your trans" or "the problem you're having is normal", and sticks to a comment like that, tell him you'll take it to a fellow dealership and have them look at it. He and his dealership probably won't want the bad press he'll know you'll give, going to a fellow dealer... If you feel that things must come to a head in the service area or the showroom, be willing to notch it up to that point but you must do it keeping your emotions in control. Do not become a raving lunatic, knowing that other customers and the dealership staff will look at you like you are - a crazy. Losing control and allowing anger to take over will not help you. It'll feel good to tell them off but will hurt you and the probability that your problem will actually be corrected! Again, you've got to take the bull by the horns and lay on somebody till the problem is corrected. DO NOT accept a blow-off, hoping the problem will go away on its own or that you'll live with it. When the warranty runs out, you'll be sorely sorry you didn't get it taken care of when you had the chance! I'll tell you what, if my car isn't right when I pick it up, I will take my own advice and live at that dealership while pestering Honda on the phone, doing whatever is neccesary to leverage them to take care of "their and my" problem. All of this written in my humble opinion, Dan |
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The Gear ratios are absolutely horrid on my 07 Fit, and the drive by wire" is a complete misnomer because the fuel delivery is based on a computer that relays what the gas pedal is doing. There is no "wire" to the engine. I have been around to the dealer 3 times because my engine hesitates when leaving from a start. And when decellerating, the RPM changes by itself no matter that your foot pedal hasn't moved. Then there's the Over-Rev, which happens when you shift on the fly and the engine races up in RPM when you put the clutch in to shift. This does not make for smooth racing up the power curve. Sometimes I skip second gear completely and just throw it into third. From there it performs well. OK, big deal, they got it half right. This is a very frustrating car to drive, but then I shouldn't complain, a CHP officer here in San Diego was killed and his entire family as well when the car's computer caused the gas pedal to race the car down the freeway and he couldn't shut it down. It was a new Lexus. The dealer tried to blame it on the floor mats. Can you believe that ? Like a highway patrolman wouldn't be able to fix that dam quick because they had over 5 miles to stop the speeding car. These cars are just over engineered, and we are stuck with the bill and the poor performance.
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I have a 08 Fit MT, 13k miles. I love the car. However, I have noticed that the several problems with the MT add up to something being wrong (I had the problems from the start, but they seem to get even worse with time). 1) The 1st gear sometimes pops out to neutral almost by itself when I switch to the 2nd. 2) When coasting backwards (2-4mph) and switching into the reverse gear I hear a loud grinding noise 3) When switching into the 2nd gear I hear a thud and the engine experiences a shake each time the gear is selected, also when coasting forward. Took it to the dealer, who quoted me $800 for transmission teardown to find if this all happened because of my misuse. I am sure I didn't cause these problems, don't know what to expect...will post what happens next...I also like the car for its economy - got 47mpg by going 60mph on a freeway (on a 90F day)
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Replying to: sportfit (Sep 02, 2009 11:33 pm) (from wikipedia) Drive-by-wire, DbW, by-wire, or x-by-wire technology in the automotive industry replaces the traditional mechanical and hydraulic control systems with electronic control systems using electromechanical actuators and human-machine interfaces such as pedal and steering feel emulators. Hence, the traditional components such as the steering column, intermediate shafts, pumps, hoses, fluids, belts, coolers and brake boosters and master cylinders are eliminated from the vehicle. Examples include electronic throttle control and brake-by-wire. |
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