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#123 of 152 Can't coast to a stop
Jul 21, 2008 (9:00 pm)
I'm a new Fit owner (just hit 700 miles!) and am very pleased with the car. I've only had one big question and it's related to my automatic transmission. I can't seem to coast to a stop. It will coast and then jerk to a stop. The dealership checked it out and said the transmission was fine and they didn't feel the issue. Has anyone else experienced this issue or perhaps have an explanation/solution to offer?
Jul 24, 2008 (5:09 pm)
I've decided on a 2008 Fit base model, and I think I'm going to go back to a Manual Tranny, the first time I've had one since 2002. At that point, I'd driven Manuals for 12 years in the Boston area, and grew tired of them in traffic. But having been away from an MT for 6 years, I do miss it. I like the Fit base for many reasons, the Zen practicality being chief amoung them. I'm also thinking that the MT would force my total involvement with driving, less tempted to be distracted by the things that I'm ashamed to admit are distracting (the cell phone...) ... So... What would You do? What did you choose, and why? MT or AT?
#125 of 152 Re: Manual or AT ? [igloomaster]
Jul 25, 2008 (5:35 am)
I chose to get my '08 GTI in 6MT because it's more of a fun car and not a daily commuter. I also have driven a manual in oppressive commuting traffic (Long Island) and it was unbearable.
Jul 25, 2008 (9:52 am)
What does the Fit have ? A drive belt or a chain? What's the recommended mileage to change if a belt? What,s the approximate cost to change the belt and h2o pump at the dealer?
#127 of 152 Re: Manual or AT ? [igloomaster]
Jul 25, 2008 (1:43 pm)
If you don't think you are going to shift gears a lot (mostly highway commute and not city traffic), the manual may work for you. But if you drive in the city or on an interstate that backs up or grinds to a lot at peak morning/afternoon periods, I'd go with the automatic.
I drove stick shifts sometimes back in the early 70s and it wasn't a problem because there weren't nearly as many cars on the road and rarely were there traffic jams (Minneapolis, MN, at the time).
I have since relocated to Omaha, NE, 10 years ago, and the situation is totally different. In late 2006 I bought a new 07 Ford Focus with 5spd (a really cheap one, $10K brand new on a MSRP of $15K) and drove it 20 miles each way on commute to work. After a while it really wore me out because traffice on the interstate would back up and I'd find myself shifting gears about 200 times in 20 miles and it was taking 45-60 min to get home. By then I was wore out. I sold the car after 1 year and 10,000 miles - it was a nice vehicle but the stick shift had become a problem. Then I bought another new 2007 Ford Focus for my wife to drive, top of the line ($13K paid, MSRP was $19K), with automatic. World of difference (better, more comfortable to drive), but now the gas mileage sucked. 07 Focus with 5spd got 30-32 mpg, same car with AT was only getting 21-22 mpg - 10 mpg less! EPA ratings were 27/34 on the AT Focus, and Ford is not known for their cars actually getting the gas mileage you see on the window stickers. So, dissatisfied with the gas mileage on the Focus with AT I bought, I sold that one too (for $12,500 only $500 off new price and owned it 9 months and drove it 6K miles.
Since Dec 07, I've bought 3 new 08 Fit Sport Automatics (1 for my son, 1 for my wife, 1 for me). We all love our Fits, fun to drive, easy to park/handle, cheap on gas.
If your budget allows, get the AT. I know Fits are getting hard to find and the price the dealers are getting is way up from 3-6 months ago. The MSRP on the 3 Fits I bought were all $16,705, and what I paid for them (without state sales tax, title, license, etc. - all that stuff we pay at our county tax offices after the sale here in NE, and typically ran another $1300-1400/car) was $16,122 (low), $16,167 (middle), and $16,322 (highest). Advertised dealer invoice is $16,122, so I feel I got good deals on all 3 purchases. Getting those kind of prices now would be difficult, but doable if you are a good negotiator.
Aug 05, 2008 (3:27 pm)
15, 27, 39, 53.
Those are the speeds listed in the owners manual as the best shift points.
However, I'm experiencing something different.
my new fit (just took delivery yesterday) feels more natural at 10, 20, 30, 40 IF i want no greater than 2500 rpms per shift.
anybody else? does this change over time? (granted i've only got 90 miles on the thing!)
#129 of 152 Re: Stick shift pops out of first [pilsner]
Aug 10, 2008 (1:34 am)
Sounds like you might have a defective transmission synchronizer.
#130 of 152 Uneasy with 2009 Sport Fit AutoTran
Oct 20, 2008 (2:49 pm)
Hi, we got our Fit about a month ago and I just love it. It's the best small car (and one of the best cars overall) that I've ever driven. We'll take a trip someday and I expect 45-50 mpg then. We drive for mileage and get 34-35mpg in Baltimore right now.
Having sung all the praises, I've become more and more concerned with the transmission. It doesn't shift smoothly .You often get a little "ah-ha!" moment between gears because the transmission seems to let the engine run free for just a bit before the next gear engages. Sometimes it's enough to make you feel thrown forward in your seat just enough to make you wonder what just happened.
When starting off, it shifts from 1st to 2nd at about 15 mph and then almost immediately shifts to the next gear (3rd or some sort of overdrive gear). The result is that the car seems to lose all power (Small wonder. You're turning 1500 rpm at 20mph with a 1500cc engine) so you give it more gas and then it down shifts and goes on. This annoys my wife. Sometimes she talks about it.
When cruising on a level road and you try to speed up, sometimes it immediately shifts _up_ to a higher gear (of course, again, all power seems to vanish) and then the car seems to figure out that was maybe not a good choice and shifts down again, sometimes two gears.
As I said, we drive for mileage and so we are very easy on the accelerator most of the time. If you are trying to keep up with rush hour traffic, you really don't notice anything undesirable about the transmission but the mileage 'tanks', so to speak.
We took it to the dealer this morning and the shop manager drove it around the block with me as the passenger. He made several comments like: "THAT's not right", "I gotta check for a software update" and "It shouldn't be driving like THAT" and "Don't worry, we'll get that fixed".
I really felt like things were going to be OK.
So I left the car at the dealer and a couple of hours later they called to tell me that all tests had checked out and that the same shop manager had determined that ALL 2009 Fit's drive just like ours and they would be happy to let us drive another one just so we could see for ourselves.
Ever since I got that call, my bull-'feather' detector has been blinking red.
So I thought I would ask you good folks if this transmission behavior sounds familiar and/or normal or do I need to get a bit firm with the dealer and/or Honda in getting this resolved.
Incidentally, the shop manager told me during the test drive that they are not authorized to do any repairs on the transmission in our car. If it doesn't seem right, they change it out, period. I suspect this all-or-nothing approach to transmissions is going to make people in his position a tad resistant to declaring that a transmission is indeed performing at a sub-standard level.
Anyway, I hope I haven't gone on too long and I would love to hear anything you have to say.
Thanks very much in advance,
#131 of 152 Re: Uneasy with 2009 Sport Fit AutoTran [kfanyo]
Oct 20, 2008 (3:38 pm)
sounds fishy to me...i have a 2007 Honda Fit and i had a weird sound in my transmission and still do but it does not affect the drive. Drive the other 2009 cars and drive the same way you described or your wife....i cannot believe all Fits shift that way..i havent any problem with my auto shift and as far as they are not authorized to touch the transmission?????what is THAT...never heard of such a thing. When i had problem in the past..i went to the service manager in Honda and told him i wanted to speak to the representative from Honda who periodically visits. (i believe they visit all of the dealers & service areas ) and speak with her/him about this problem. (they took care of me because they did not want me to speak with the rep from Honda) if they wont or if they say, they dont come here..haha.... go over his head to Honda itself...you can find their address on the internet. Honda stands behind their cars.
If all the 2009s shifted like you described we would have all kinds of messages on this forum... best
#132 of 152 Re: Uneasy with 2009 Sport Fit AutoTran [kfanyo]
Apr 27, 2009 (4:10 pm)
I'm having similar problems with my 2009 Honda Fit Sport AT. I just bought it back in February. It only has 4,000 miles on it. It drives great on the interstate (35MPG) and ok in the city (30MPG), but I've been told it will improve in time as the engine is broken in. Which brings me to my current dilemma. I think something is wrong with the transmission.
It was always a little jumpy in the lower gears at first, especially when going from a complete stop into 1 or 2, but it seemed to mellow out after a few thousand miles and my awareness of the gas pedal's sensitivity. I dismissed it as a new car that hadn't been broken in yet and continued to drive. Things seemed to be going great, but then I started to notice the car getting stuck in 3rd gear when going down hills. The engine would just wur (sp?) until I assisted it by clicking the right paddle shifter. I shouldn't have to assist an automatic tranny. Anyway, the car did not always do this and like I said mellowed out in time. However, now it's back to getting stuck in 3rd going downhill and it's skipping gears altogether as I drive.
Has anyone ever experienced going from 1st into 5th by the time they reach 35MPH??? It seems to jump right into 3rd, hit 4th at 20MPH, and then 5th at 35MPH. Then the car has no power at all and the engine just wurs/spins.