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Acura RDX, Car Leasing, Car Buying, SUV
Aug 01, 2012 (10:07 am)
What is the hang up with destination? At least it's a consistent charge that makes sense (getting the vehicle from the factory to the dealership). I don't see why everyone seems to think it's BS. The documentation fees, on the other hand, seem to vary from location to location and are much more open for interpretation in my opinion. In addition, destination has a tangible benefit; I don't want to have to go to the factory to pick up my car.
#1369 of 2028 Re: Destination? [aberabee]
Aug 01, 2012 (10:50 am)
You're 100% correct. People that don't know any better think destination is some kind of extra negotiable charge and it isn't. It's part of the invoice price. Some people think..."hey, I live down the street from the factory, why should I have to pay the same as someone 2000 miles from the factory?' The only reason the dest. chg. is broken out on the invoice is for advertising purposes, so they can advertise a lower price and then say "plus destination". Try to negotiate the "destination charge" off your next refrigerator and see how well that works. It's part of the invoice price and it is not negotiable.
Ok, you may get some hot shot that says, "bull...., I negotiated the destination off the price". Well, what they really did was they got the dealer to lower their sales price by about the amount of the destination charge. Dealer doesn't care what you call a discount, they just care about the bottome line price. Same way with doc fees. Some states regulate the fees as to how much they can charge and then say if they do charge a doc fee, they have to charge the same to everybody or leave themselves open to discrimination risk. So they all charge and when some "expert negotiator" says they will not pay that exhorbitant doc fee the dealer just says ok and lowers the sale price of the vehicle by that amount and joe blow negotiator thinks they really showed that dealer what for.
Bottome line ---quit worrying about what it's called and just negotiate to your price, it doesn't matter how the dealer breaks it down on the paperwork.
#1370 of 2028 Re: Destination? [m6user]
by kyfdx HOST
Aug 01, 2012 (5:04 pm)
Conversely, you negotiate what seems like a good price on the car, and when they start adding it up, there is an additional fee of $795 for destination.... What?
"Oh, everyone has to pay for destination... why would we include that in the negotiated price?"
So... it goes both ways..
#1371 of 2028 Re: Destination? [kyfdx]
Aug 01, 2012 (5:45 pm)
It's clearly stated on the window sticker so that would be odd that the customer wouldn't realize it's part of the overall price. Not that I doubt that it has happened but it has never happended to me and I've bought a lot of cars over the years. If I had spent a lot of time negotiating and then they tried to drop that on me.....I would walk, period! Then I know I'm dealing with a real shyster outfit.
I've lived in states where the doc fees are reasonable(as reasonable as it can be I guess) of $150 or less. In Illinois I think it may be something like $151.50. In those states that the dealers want to charge $300, $400 and even $500 I guess you just have to be real diligent and ask up front before you even start negotiating. Nothing wrong with "hey, before we start, what's your doc fee and do you include the dest chg in the negotiation?"
#1372 of 2028 Acura RDX 2013 - Best Price to Buy in WA
Aug 04, 2012 (4:42 pm)
Guys, Help me locate best dealer and price to buy Acura RDX 2013 in Washington state, esp in and around Seattle. I got offer for $ 39,300, But that is bit expensive as I feel.
#1373 of 2028 Re: Destination? [aberabee]
Aug 05, 2012 (6:26 am)
Destination, freight, is part of the MSRP of the vehicle. Savy buyers should consider the freight part of the negotiated price rather than a fee.
Documentation fees, on the other hand, are not a cost to a dealer, not part of the price of the car, and most certainly not a fee. Dealers attaching the word fee is clearly designed to enforce the belief, to many buyers, the "fee" is a required part of the deal. In fact, the documentation fee is nothing more than profit for the dealer.
One thing to recognize is the dealer most likely must segregate the fee in the deal. Dealers selectively charging the fee to only some customers will likely run afoul of discrimination laws. However that does not mean a buyer has to pay the fee. A smart buyer will negotiate a price, say $20,000. The dealer would likely try to add the fee, say $300, and make the price $20,300, A savy buyer would say no way and demand the deal be stated as $19,700 + $300 = $20,000.
It astounds me how many people posting on Edmunds seem to have accepted this dealer scam!
#1374 of 2028 $38,760 for AWD+Tech Package ,good price?
Aug 08, 2012 (5:00 pm)
i was quoted at $38,760 for AWD+Tech Package NYC MSRP $40,315 ....ANY ADVICE
#1375 of 2028 Re: $38,760 for AWD+Tech Package ,good price? [pzzcat]
Aug 08, 2012 (5:33 pm)
-2K MSRP is the target
#1376 of 2028 Re: $38,760 for AWD+Tech Package ,good price? [mlevinedc3]
Aug 08, 2012 (5:38 pm)
got it,THANK YOU
#1377 of 2028 i was quoted at NYC $38,760 and NJ $37860
Aug 08, 2012 (7:23 pm)
i was quoted at NYC $38,760 and NJ (22 MI from my home )$37860 for AWD+Tech Package MSRP $40,315 ....ANY ADVICE