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Time to replace Tires... by JingleJill
Mar 21, 2008 (9:40 am)
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Mama needs a new set of tires...
 
Shipo, maybe you can help. I have a 2004 330i w/performance package. I need some new tires. I still live in the heart of South Texas; where it is HOT; so no need for an all season. However, I do have a little one in the back seat now, so I do have to be more careful. When it does rain down here it gets slicker than snot... I'm not looking to spend an arm and a leg, but need a good set of tires for my second baby (the car)...
 
Opinions wanted...
 
Thanks,
 
Stacy
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Re: Time to replace Tires... [JingleJill] by shipo
Mar 21, 2008 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: JingleJill (Mar 21, 2008 9:40 am)

Hey Stacy, wow, you're a momma now. Cool! IIRC, back when we first started trading posts I had two little ones, and they're now 14 and 11. Yeesh, I feel old.
 
Regarding your situation, given the extreme competence of the Performance Package on your car, a good set of all-season tires will allow you to stay well glued to the road when conditions are dry, and substantially out-perform go-fast rubber when the rain comes. That said, there are only a few All-Season tires that have sizes that fit both the front and rear of your car, and they aren't exactly cheap (although less expensive than typical summer rubber):
 
Goodyear Eagle F1 All-Seasons -- $698
Pirelli PZero Nero M&S -- $720
Yokohama ADVAN S.4. -- $862
 
FWIW, I'm personally am no fan of Pirelli tires and would chuck them off the list without a second thought. I'm luke warm about these Goodyears, however, they do get pretty good reviews. That leaves the Yokos, tires that I happen to like quite a bit and which are very well received by folks who need sporty all-season rubber. So, were I in your shoes, I'd opt to spend the extra money and go for the Yokos.
 
As a point of reference, a set of OEM Michelin Pilot Sports will run you $1,016, so even the expensive Yokos are a relative bargain, especially so as they should last roughly twice as long as the Michelins.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Time to replace Tires... [JingleJill] by roadburner
Mar 21, 2008 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: JingleJill (Mar 21, 2008 9:40 am)

This is one of the few issues where I disagree with Shipo. I've had pretty good luck with Pirellis. In fact, I have a set of PZero Nero M+S tires on my wife's X3. They have good grip in the wet and have remained quiet over the 15K tmiles that they have been on the truck. It gets decent reviews from Tire Rack customers as well. YMMV, of course.
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Just to note one thing.. by kyfdx HOST
Mar 21, 2008 (11:55 am)
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She specifically stated she didn't want all-seasons...
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Re: Time to replace Tires... [roadburner] by shipo
Mar 21, 2008 (4:17 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Mar 21, 2008 11:18 am)

Just a personal opinion, right or wrong. To be sure I cannot back that up with any statiscal or empirical data, it's just one of those things. :p
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Just to note one thing.. [kyfdx] by shipo
Mar 21, 2008 (4:23 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Mar 21, 2008 11:55 am)

Agreed, however, I'm thinking that something like the Yokos would give up very little in day-to-day driving and be better able to deal with the oil slicked wet roads that can be found in places where rain isn't as frequent as it is here in New England.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Just to note one thing.. [kyfdx] by fedlawman
Mar 21, 2008 (4:28 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Mar 21, 2008 11:55 am)

The main difference between an all-season tires and its summer counterpart is the rubber compound, not the tread. What this means is - in a place where it doesn't get cold, an all-season tire is not needed.
 
A high performance summer tire will grip a wet road just as well as it's all-season counterpart.
 
Like Roadburner, I am also a Pirelli PZero Nero believer. I have the all-season version on my M3 and they are terrific wet or dry, hot or cold. Pirelli makes a summer-only version that I think would be perfect - though I've also heard great things about the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 - which comes with a $50 rebate off a set of 4 right now...
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Re: Just to note one thing.. [fedlawman] by shipo
Mar 21, 2008 (5:16 pm)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Mar 21, 2008 4:28 pm)

"The main difference between an all-season tires and its summer counterpart is the rubber compound, not the tread."
 
Not the tread??? Uhhh, maybe I'm missing something (highly possible), but as a general rule, All-Season tires have tread patterns that have greater voids, smaller tread blocks and more siping than summer performance tires. The only exception to that rule that I can think of is the Pirelli PZero Neros.
 
I'm thinking that I'd be far more comfortable driving on rain slicked roads with All-Season tires than summer rubber.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Just to note one thing.. [shipo] by fedlawman
Mar 21, 2008 (9:54 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Mar 21, 2008 5:16 pm)

Well I was thinking specifically of the Pirelli's (which have identical tread pattern for both all-season and summer). They are a good (and maybe the only) example of the "fundamental difference" between all-season and summer tires.
 
No other tire manufacturer that I can think of has "comparable" all-season and summer tires. So yes, in most cases, the tread pattern will be different. And with that in mind, it's up to each tire manufacturer to decide how to cater the performance of their tires for each road condition.
 
That being said, summer tires like the Eagle F1 GS-D3 are supposedly very good at evacuating water. Heck, even my Toyo RA-1's do well in the rain (when they're brand new, anyways ).
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Re: Time to replace Tires... [shipo] by JingleJill
Mar 22, 2008 (2:23 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Mar 21, 2008 10:02 am)

Thanks Shipo. I know I can always ask a question and you'll answer it.
 
What a lively little message board we have here regarding tires.
 
Yes, it has been a long time. I have a little critter in the back seat now, but I still have a BMW. I'm now on my 5th one; which I am very happy with, (I had the 2005 330ci w/performance package but when I found out I was pregnant I realized a 2-door wouldn't do, so I had to sell that and the Porsche and go get a couple of "grocery getters"... I was able to find the exact same 330 but with 4 doors and a year older...
 
I'll have to look into the tires... I've been putting off getting a new set, but Pig Pen (car) is starting to slip and slide all over the place...
 
If anyone else has some thoughts on tires, please feel free to chime in...
 
Stacy

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