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#35 of 68 Prius Traction Battery MYSTERY
Dec 01, 2009 (5:37 pm)
I am looking at purhasing a 2001 Prius with 142k miles. The guy I am going to buy this car from said:
The car had some kind of failure, so he towed it to the dealer.
This is what he told me:
The lights do come on the computers
> are all energized. It gives an error code that the Toyota
> mechanic says indicates the main battery. It is a different
> code than what it gave when the inverter was bad. It will
> not start since the electric motor is the starter also. Yes
> I am sure that you can replace the main battery(which is
> called the traction battery by Toyota) and it should be
> fine. The mechanic at Toyota said that he thought that the
> battery that is in it would be ok if it were charged. I am
> just relating what I have been told. I really do not know
> anything about these cars. You are welcome to look at it for
> yourself. I am sure if you know about these cars you can fix
> it but I do not know how. The mechanic who did some of the
> work on it was going to buy it but he has lost his job and
> moved out of state.
Let me know what you guys think about this car. I think it has been sitting for about a year.
ANY advice would be wonderful and helpful!
PS I really want one of these I just can't afford a new one!
#36 of 68 Re: Prius Traction Battery MYSTERY [colonel570]
Dec 01, 2009 (6:28 pm)
Stay away from that car. The 2001-2003 were no good to start with. Poor performance, poor milage, lousy cabin. If it was a 2004 or newer, I might take a shot.
#37 of 68 Re: Prius Traction Battery MYSTERY [colonel570]
Dec 02, 2009 (4:55 am)
I guess one of the first things I would do is to find out the cost to replace the battery. I have heard several figures but not from Toyota.
When I think of these Hybrids I immediately think of the childrens game where there are 11 kids and 10 chairs. Ring around the ROSEY is what we called it. Whoever is left holding the car when the battery needs replacing is in trouble.
#38 of 68 Re: Prius Traction Battery MYSTERY [coontie66]
Dec 02, 2009 (6:45 am)
Does anyone have anything helpful to say? I know how much the batterys cost at the dealer, I can also buy them off ebay for $1500. I am wondering if anyone else has had this problem and is it possible to repair this battery at home using parts purchased off ebay or getting a battery from a junkyard or is it possible to charge the battery or is it possible to recharge the battery using the onboard generator rolling it down a long hill? I dunno I am just thinking out loud.
#39 of 68 Re: Prius Traction Battery MYSTERY [colonel570]
Dec 02, 2009 (7:25 am)
Forget about Plug In Hybrids for a few years unless your driving is limited to 5-10 mile round trips. The present Prius traction battery will get you 1 mile if you're lucky. A $10,000 retrofit will get you maybe 10-15 miles before the ICE takes over or you have to recharge. My 2004 Prius, with EV, goes about 1/2 mile. Jim Woolsey, former CIA Director, has a specially modified Prius that gets him 40 miles to work where he recharges to get home. He would not estimate what the conversion cost. It was done at government expense and takes up the entire trunk and back seat. For very short trips get an golf cart or an electric car. A natural gas/ICE would be a logical replacement for a gasoline/ICE.
#40 of 68 Re: Prius Traction Battery MYSTERY [stevegold]
Dec 02, 2009 (8:13 am)
Just curious, you say you can go about a 1/2 mile on just the electric at what speed? Also Ford says up to 47 on theirs in which I can get about 44 or so for about close to a mile but trying to watch the road and the fancy dash makes it hard to tell for sure also that is using the ice to get to 50 and let it coast down to 44 where the ice shuts off and electric takes over. One thing I have never got it up to 47 from a dead stop as I just haven't had the time to find a lonely flat road nor the time plus we got it for our family car and mpg wasn't our first priority.
#41 of 68 Re: Prius Traction Battery MYSTERY [colonel570]
Dec 02, 2009 (5:18 pm)
>> Does anyone have anything helpful to say?
I owned one for 3 years before upgrading, then recently upgrading again.
The 2001 was really nice. Not sure what the "poor" judgement was in comparison to. Performance was fine (never any trouble merging) and mileage was too (45.4 MPG average for 59,827 miles).
#42 of 68 Re: Prius Traction Battery MYSTERY [dmathews3]
Dec 02, 2009 (5:23 pm)
>> Just curious, you say you can go about a 1/2 mile on just the electric at what speed?
42 MPH is the threshold for the models thru 2009.
46 MPH for the 2010.
62.1 MPH (100 km/h) for the plug-in.
#43 of 68 Re: Recharge Prius at Home on AC power? [acdii]
Dec 07, 2009 (1:19 pm)
When all you really need, seem to need, is a horse trailer and the ability to tow it.
Most any 3000# vehicle can do that quite handily.
"...If more....were diesels.."
Exactly where gasoline engine technology is "taking" us, gasoline engines that run in diesel, compression ignition, mode part of the time.
#44 of 68 Re: Prius Traction Battery MYSTERY [coontie66]
Dec 07, 2009 (1:26 pm)
"..is in trouble.."
That depends on the level of investment, purchase price, and the miles already driven.
Not really much different, "investment wise" from having to refill the gas tank once it has been drained, or overhauling the engine once the need arises, or even needing a new set of tires.