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Recharge Prius at Home on AC power?

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Re: Recharge Prius at Home on AC power? [pathstar1] by jg6
Apr 10, 2007 (10:49 am)
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Replying to: pathstar1 (Aug 16, 2006 1:28 pm)

No Way!!
 
The Camry has over 5% more passenger volume and over 4% more cargo space.
 
You should have stuck with the "about" the same size.....
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Re: Recharge Prius at Home on AC power? [acdii] by roland3
Apr 14, 2007 (4:35 am)
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Replying to: acdii (Apr 05, 2007 7:09 am)

... acdii, the NOX is created by heat and pressure in the combustion chamber. The temp of the fuel preinjection is almost a nonfactor, other than if it is too cold it does not combust as well. Actually I would like to see some studies done on the fuel starting at 300 F. but ALL the manus seem to fear their fuel system components. The NOX is one of God's cruel little jokes, as heat, pressure, compression gives us efficiency and power especially in Diesel.
... NOX, might not be the worse thing to breath, as compared to CO, HC and particulate but creates the BROWN haze and receives the most attention. I am for clean air but I think exhasut gas recirculation is not the way to obtain it. For one thing in a big truck it takes fifteen more horsepower to drive the fan with an EGR system. This is a big problem for thirty years because CARB and EPA measure exhaust gas quality and NOT quantity. Not to mention that many of these EGR systems are failure prone a few years down the road. I believe that air quality will follow fuel efficiency.
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proper diesel applicatioins are great by chadx
Aug 16, 2007 (9:31 am)
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I just got back from our annual trip to Germany (we have family there) and rented a BMW 1 series for a 300 mile one-way trip up north. It had the small diesel engine. With the manual tranny, the acceleration was nice and zippy, though it took some adjustment to get used to the redline being so low for a small car. Maybe 5k rpm.
 
On our drive, I averaged between 90 - 110 mph with plenty of runs up to 120mph (and I was getting passed liked crazy) and still pulled over 40 miles to the gallon (I had to convert from metric, etc). That car is rated at 50mpg highway, and I'm sure it would get it at legal U.S. speeds. They have an even smaller diesel that is rated at 60mpg. BMW is also making changes this year to improve the hp rating 10 - 15% but still increase mileage 15%, so the 1 series will be even better. All this without any hybrid technology. Oh, and they meet all tier 2 emission requirements quite handely. It's definitely a "consumer perception" issue, in this country, regarding diesel power and it's performance, cleanlyness, etc.
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Prius Traction Battery MYSTERY by colonel570
Dec 01, 2009 (5:37 pm)
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I am looking at purhasing a 2001 Prius with 142k miles. The guy I am going to buy this car from said:
 
The car had some kind of failure, so he towed it to the dealer.
 
This is what he told me:
 
The lights do come on the computers
> are all energized. It gives an error code that the Toyota
> mechanic says indicates the main battery. It is a different
> code than what it gave when the inverter was bad. It will
> not start since the electric motor is the starter also. Yes
> I am sure that you can replace the main battery(which is
> called the traction battery by Toyota) and it should be
> fine. The mechanic at Toyota said that he thought that the
> battery that is in it would be ok if it were charged. I am
> just relating what I have been told. I really do not know
> anything about these cars. You are welcome to look at it for
> yourself. I am sure if you know about these cars you can fix
> it but I do not know how. The mechanic who did some of the
> work on it was going to buy it but he has lost his job and
> moved out of state.
 
Let me know what you guys think about this car. I think it has been sitting for about a year.
 
ANY advice would be wonderful and helpful!
 
Thanks
Ryan
 
PS I really want one of these I just can't afford a new one!
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Re: Prius Traction Battery MYSTERY [colonel570] by stevegold
Dec 01, 2009 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: colonel570 (Dec 01, 2009 5:37 pm)

Stay away from that car. The 2001-2003 were no good to start with. Poor performance, poor milage, lousy cabin. If it was a 2004 or newer, I might take a shot.
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Re: Prius Traction Battery MYSTERY [colonel570] by coontie66
Dec 02, 2009 (4:55 am)
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Replying to: colonel570 (Dec 01, 2009 5:37 pm)

I guess one of the first things I would do is to find out the cost to replace the battery. I have heard several figures but not from Toyota.
 
When I think of these Hybrids I immediately think of the childrens game where there are 11 kids and 10 chairs. Ring around the ROSEY is what we called it. Whoever is left holding the car when the battery needs replacing is in trouble.
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Re: Prius Traction Battery MYSTERY [coontie66] by colonel570
Dec 02, 2009 (6:45 am)
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Replying to: coontie66 (Dec 02, 2009 4:55 am)

Does anyone have anything helpful to say? I know how much the batterys cost at the dealer, I can also buy them off ebay for $1500. I am wondering if anyone else has had this problem and is it possible to repair this battery at home using parts purchased off ebay or getting a battery from a junkyard or is it possible to charge the battery or is it possible to recharge the battery using the onboard generator rolling it down a long hill? I dunno I am just thinking out loud.
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Re: Prius Traction Battery MYSTERY [colonel570] by stevegold
Dec 02, 2009 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: colonel570 (Dec 02, 2009 6:45 am)

Forget about Plug In Hybrids for a few years unless your driving is limited to 5-10 mile round trips. The present Prius traction battery will get you 1 mile if you're lucky. A $10,000 retrofit will get you maybe 10-15 miles before the ICE takes over or you have to recharge. My 2004 Prius, with EV, goes about 1/2 mile. Jim Woolsey, former CIA Director, has a specially modified Prius that gets him 40 miles to work where he recharges to get home. He would not estimate what the conversion cost. It was done at government expense and takes up the entire trunk and back seat. For very short trips get an golf cart or an electric car. A natural gas/ICE would be a logical replacement for a gasoline/ICE.
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Re: Prius Traction Battery MYSTERY [stevegold] by dmathews3
Dec 02, 2009 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: stevegold (Dec 02, 2009 7:25 am)

Just curious, you say you can go about a 1/2 mile on just the electric at what speed? Also Ford says up to 47 on theirs in which I can get about 44 or so for about close to a mile but trying to watch the road and the fancy dash makes it hard to tell for sure also that is using the ice to get to 50 and let it coast down to 44 where the ice shuts off and electric takes over. One thing I have never got it up to 47 from a dead stop as I just haven't had the time to find a lonely flat road nor the time plus we got it for our family car and mpg wasn't our first priority.

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