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Scion xB, Auto Body, Wagon
#227 of 256 Re: Cracked, but not related [scioneer]
Jan 03, 2010 (12:54 pm)
The problem isn't the windshield. It's the strut bars that hold it in place. They were made incorrectly and put pressure on the glass causing the cracks. I've had my windshield replaced 9 times now and if it was the actual glass, wouldn't the first replacement have fixed the problem? I'm glad to hear that you have yet to deal with the problem. Hopefully you will never have to. I love my xB and don't want to replace it. It's an awesome car except for that one pesky problem with the engineering of the strut bars. Trust me, my boyfriend is an expert in this area. He and his brother are both engineers and have proof that this is the issue. Even Toyota agrees but won't call it a recall for fear that they will have to shell out billions to fix it and end up dealing with numerous lawsuits. You know, the usual corporate crap. Good luck, hope your glass holds out!
#228 of 256 Re: didn't listen [hondadave7]
Apr 05, 2010 (4:22 am)
I know this is an old post, but thanks for the info! I have an '08 Scion that is on the 2nd windshield and I have had 1 ding repaired, I have 2 large cracks presently and another ding from yesterday. I am reluctant to replace the windshield until I can solve the problem of why this keeps happening, but it's getting harder to see out! I would like to try the strut bar and I am sure my brother-in-law can fashion one out of steel for me. I am wondering if you would be able to draw a simple sketch and either post it or email (maloneysarahhotmail.com) it to me? I would be so grateful! I LOVE my Scion, but am distressed over this issue.
#229 of 256 Re: didn't listen [sarahmalo]
Apr 05, 2010 (5:24 am)
I don't have a method of posting. I going to take several pictures and send them
I don't have an Engineering Degree, just 60 years of observation. Our xB is
almost 4 years old and still on it's original windshield. I never get cocky about
a fix to a problem so many people have. But the strut bar is a good start.
I will send pictures tonight.
#230 of 256 Re: Scion xB Windshield cracks [aatherton]
Apr 16, 2010 (3:04 am)
My windshield is spidered in cracks. The first two hits were bounced off the back of a dirty flatbed pulled by a gravel truck. I tried to catch up, to get a plate number, but he left the freeway. Those verticaled down to join one another when I got caught in a severe hailstorm a few months later. Then on the interstate again, rocks bouncing off a dirty flatbed, two hit me and my windshield received a half moon crack two inches across. A couple months ago, as I was driving, I heard small creaks, and the passenger side half moon was cracking a bit at a time, over to join the vertical cracks on the driver side.
I have liability insurance only, and have already replaced the windshield once. I'm getting quotes of $600 to replace it and I am saving my money for it. However, I know it will just get cracked again, so am holding off as long as I can.
My Scion now has over 150,000 miles on it. I have loved this car. It still gets like 31 mpg. It is dinged up. Scratched up. A piece of the front grill popped off. Right now, something is wrong with the electric windows. I start the car, the driver's side window rolls down. And sometimes I can't get the drivers side window up or down and have to do ritualistic movement of the passenger side window up and down and then maybe the drivers side window will start working. I have used it for my volunteer work, which is hauling cats, by the score, feral and owned, to be fixed. About a thousand per year. Had 23 cats in the back in traps once. I fold down the back seats, have a piece of plywood cut to fit the back then, for hauling. I sleep back there too, a lot, when way out somewhere, catching cats to be fixed. Because I'm 5'8" tall, I sleep diagonal across the back section, with the board across the folded down rear seat. It's the only decent car I've ever owned, that I don't have to fix along the road everywhere. I would never complain about this car because I love it and it has allowed me to do something with my life---getting thousands of cats fixed. Some shops, including a Schwab near where I live, have made terrible fun of my car and of me, because I transport cats to be fixed, but they were mean jerks and now I get tires from a wrecking yard.
I told my Scion, because it's the first year out Scion xb, "one day, they'll be pulling cars like this out of junkyards to restore." I'd like to pimp it out, repaint it, all that, but that's not an option for me. I love my Scion xb very very much. It's seen better days, however.
#231 of 256 Re: Scion xB Windshield cracks [sciontrapper]
Apr 16, 2010 (8:01 pm)
I love that you use your Scion to take cats to be fixed. That's awesome. I've slept in mine too but only between classes. Great napping car. You really should get some kind of glass coverage. It'll save you wicked bucks. I know out here you can get independent glass coverage, basically, make a deal with the fix-it people. I know the guys at Safelite really well now. (because of my pesky windshield) There are also guys that hang out at the gas station that are selling their replacement products. The first one is free, even without the extended insurance. They just hope you come back to them. You should search someone out. You'd be surprised what people are will to give you for free to keep you as a customer. Keep up the good cat work. That really is very cool. (I'm a cat person, what can I say. I feed feral cats)
Apr 17, 2010 (2:04 am)
my wife and I are also cat people. They're beautiful creatures.
I am pulling for you to find a method of not only getting your xB's window fixed right now, but finding a method of getting your xB's window fixed that won't break the bank.
I hope all goes well and here's another salute for your work towards getting cat's fixed. Tis a noble work you're doing!
#233 of 256 I have the same crack
May 05, 2010 (11:39 am)
I own a 2006 Scion xb and my windshield has the same mysterious L shaped crack that many others have. It appeared after the car was parked for 2 weeks in 2008. It was not the result of a rock, bump or chip. It is now about 2' long, begins at the top edge of the windshield, goes down about 4", then turns towards the passenger side and continues for a foot and a half or so. It spreads fairly rapidly. I have personally seen the exact same crack on other xb's in my area. I received the same Bauer v. Toyota class action lawsuit letter that others have mentioned, about a week ago. I am going to fill it out and send it in today. The website for the suit can be found here: http://xbwindshieldsettlement.com/
#234 of 256 Scion Windshield Settlement
May 05, 2010 (12:15 pm)
Did anyone get the information from the attorney about getting reimbursed for the windshield repair?
#235 of 256 Information on cracked xb windshield reimbursment
May 05, 2010 (4:39 pm)
In the "Bauer v. Toyota" letter I received it said that the settlement would be decided in August 2010. So I guess after that, we will be notified whether we will be reimbursed (or have our cracked windshields replaced by Toyota). This is the info I received: http://xbwindshieldsettlement.com/pdfs/TBT_NOT_web.pdf
Hope this helps.
#236 of 256 Re: sciontrapper... [iluvmysephia1]
May 11, 2010 (10:54 pm)
I got my windshield replaced two days ago, at Speedy Glass, for $185. It's my 2nd or 3rd, can't remember now. I also wound up getting brakes done at Brake Team, because the shoes had never been changed in over 150k miles. Yikes. I have not gotten the window problem fixed yet. Start my car and the window rolls down, or up and sometimes I can't get it back up without a lot of ritualistic moving the passenger side window up and down.
The car is beat up now, scratched, dented, piece or two of the grill have fallen off somewhere. I drilled holes through the back hatch handle and screwed it on, since it just breaking off.
I'm holding my breath hoping nothing major goes bad, because I love it and this car has served me so well. I am using a different clinic now, to get local cats fixed, and it's 50 miles away. I don't mind, because I stay up there for the day, and take a hike or I go sleep in my car in the rest area, which is a very nice vacation like luxury. No phones! I take some blankets, a book and pretend I'm out camping. That is one luxurious rest area, like a second home now. I consider the Scion a smallish RV.
I am worried slightly about its future because my Scions future is tied to mine. I'll never be able to afford another car, so, here's to my 150k mile Scion, and hopes it will last another 150k miles or more without anything more than maybe another crack in the windshield. Last year, I transported 651 cats, feral and tame, in the Scion, to be fixed. The year before, it was 938 cats transported in the Scion to be fixed. That also involves first rounding them up, and that meant dirt roads, gravel roads, sometimes driving through fields, sitting in warehouses in the Scion, making quick discreet getaways, and hauling some very smelly male cats, which prompted some mechanics and tire companies, ok it was rude Les Schwab, to make fun of my car and my work. Nonetheless, I have persisted on my self appointed mission to save the feline world. That Scion has helped prevent a lot of cats from ever being born. I'm rambling severely. That's what half a cheap beer will do to me. Fix your pets, Scion owners out there. www.purr.petfinder.com. Am I allowed to post that website?