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#378 of 2608 1999 Windstar SEL Drivetrain Noise (post 344 Solved)
Mar 06, 2001 (2:48 pm)
Gradually gaining back my confidence in the Ford Windstar...However, I must say that If I had read this series of posts, I probably would not have purchased a second windstar! This past week was one that I would like to forget. My new vehicle drove poorly at high speeds. After not hearing from anyone on the Edmunds Post net on my problems,I decided to take it to the dealer who originally delivered the vehicle. I purchased the 1999 Windstar SEL two weeks ago from a local town person. It has 30,300 miles on it and look in perfect condition. After putting a deposit on it, I found out that it was a leased vehicle. The deposit was transferred to the dealer.One thing I found out...People who lease don't hear those bothersome noises...they drive it as long as it runs! I guess they don't want the extra service charges...After visiting the dealership, I asked the clerk for a copy of the computer run-off of the service records of my VIN #. The clerk immediately referred me to the dealership owner and Service Manager. They gave me a copy of the service records. To date, the only service performed was brake pads at 28,300 miles, oil changes and tire rotation at 21,000 miles. I explained the existing problem, ie.,drivetrain noise, pulsating between 45 to 68 mph...and when it's extremely cold, sharp right turns resulted in a metalic scrapping noise, like a twig in the wheel well. Both the dealership owner and the Service Manager assured me that the problems would be solved. They had a tech drive with me to verify the problems, and it was hard for me to convince him that the pulsating noise was not just tire noise. I left the van and three days later, the Service Manager called me and stated that they had found the problem and in addition performed two upgrades. They were as follows:
a- 00B51 Transmission rear lube tube
(changed trans oil &
b- 00T07 PCM re-program...Allows windows
to be opened 10 minutes after key is
The pulsating noise was a defective hub...They replaced the hub and bearing assembly. They also torqued the frame bolts on the front suspension, and that cleared the metalic noise. I put a few hundred miles on it last weekend, and the vehicle is quiet, like new! I was very happy with this North Jersey Dealer and intent to use them for my routine service. This is my second Windstar. My first was a 95 LX with digital dash...boy do I miss this dash! I drove the Windstar 96,700 miles without incident...it never failed me. Last week I mention to my wife that this was the most dependable vehicle I ever owned. When oil changes were performed, I always requested that the dealer do any recalls at the same time. I changed my oil every 3,000 miles and used Castrol GTX 5-30, with a quart of Rislome as an additive. This additive is used by a local Taxi Firm, who gets 300,000 miles out of a 3.8...He claims, it keeps the engine clean inside. I also had the transmission oil and filter cleaned every 25,000 miles. The 3.8 is a large block for 5 quarts of oil. The most reliable American engine, the Northstar has a 7.5 quart oil sump. Changing the oil every 3,000 miles helps to overcome the shortcomings of a small sump. I kept service records on my 95 van and the brake rotor recall was done at 20,000 miles...head gasket recall at 60,000 miles... and hood beef-up at 87,00 miles. New brake pads were installed at 50,000 and 87,000 miles...and a new set of Michclin tires installed at 87,000 miles. A new battery was installed upon donating the van to a local minister in town. The van is still like new, however, after reading the posts on the 95's, I hope I did the right thing, donating the van to a Minister. His son loved the stock JBL sound system (an LX extra).
I will keep you posted on my new SEL. I bought it because of the 5 star safety rating. Not many Vans have this feature!
Mar 06, 2001 (3:01 pm)
"Fullsize, why do you feel the need to be a "button pusher"?"
I don't. I think my second post speaks for itself. Questioning things that don't quite seem right is hardly the equivalent of pushing people's buttons needlessly.
"Have you read any of these posts?!?!"
Every one of them. That's what prompted my post.
"OK Fullsize, I won't direct any more comments to you. Its not worth the time anyway... "
Excellent. Save your time (and all those exclamation points) for more important purposes.
#381 of 2608 oil changes on 01 Windstar
Mar 06, 2001 (9:45 pm)
could anyone tell me why Ford suggests that oil changes be made every 5,000 miles instead of 3,000 miles. Oil capacity is 5.75 quarts and they suggest 5W-20. Thanks
Mar 06, 2001 (11:06 pm)
WMY -- WHAT?? I CAN'T HEAR YOU!! TRY YELLING LOUDER!!
#384 of 2608 class action
Mar 07, 2001 (9:24 pm)
Hey folks... just thought I would get the ball rolling. I have only heard from one person that an "Ameen" from Chicano is taking information for a class action law suit. However, I can't find out how to get in touch with this lawyer. (I take it fullsize will not be joining in, and that's OK) For the rest of us, I have finally contacted a lawyer myself. I am now taking information of all the problems of Windstars and categorizing them. The lawyer told me that the only way to win against Ford is to prove the parts were made negligently, faulty, etc., and that the percentage is relatively high compared to how many were produced. (Ford example, 5,000 Wind stars having transmission problems out of 350,000 that were made, would not be suable.) I could use all your help to get the word out to all/any Windstar owners. The more proof you have the better, the more receipts you have the better. Also can anyone help me figure out how many Windstars were produced for each year? e-mail me at morse71home.com Hope to hear from as many of you as I can. Thanks
#385 of 2608 1999 Windstar SEL Oil Capacity
Mar 07, 2001 (9:31 pm)
Note to callo...just checked my Windstar 99 SEL manual...states 5 Quarts - 5W-30. If your 2001 Windstar calls for 5.75 quarts, it looks like Ford has increased the oil sump size...certainly going the right direction. I couldn't find any mention of 5000 mile oil change in my manual, however, on the winshield, the Ford dealer placed a sticker with 3000 miles above the current mileage...possibly because he knows I change the oil every 3000 miles.
I was fortunate to have a taxi driver take me to the airport awhile back, and because of a heavy workload, sent the cab companys Service Manager to serve as a driver. I had a field day asking questions. They have about 50 Windstars, mostly 99's. He stated that he gets 300,000 miles out of the 3.8 engine and 150,000 miles out of the transmission. He felt the 3000 mile oil change and 25,000 mile transmission oil and filter cleaning was necessary. He also stated that a Rislome or Marvel Mystery oil additive was most important to keep the engine clean. The cab company uses Rislome. I have been following this pattern with success on my last three vehicles. It's a cheap insurance policy, together with the 75,000 mile extended warranty! Good luck with your 2001 Windstar...
Mar 07, 2001 (10:16 pm)
I also have a 99 (SE) and the Scheduled Maintenance booklet clearly says every 5000 miles.
I'm not particularly comfortable going that long though...