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#1390 of 2608 Looking to buy 98-00 Windstar (Tamu)
Feb 27, 2004 (4:42 pm)
I'll first state that I am a former 95 Windstar owner having parted ways with mine to charity just last night (Yippie!). I spent no less than $2500 in repairs over the last 14 months, mainly from 100k to 120k.
Maybe the 1998-2000 are out of the woods regarding many of the Windstar problems, but I know of several still having issues with tie rods and ball joints (don't kid yourself - the sealed ball joints won't meet your "life" expectancy - just Fords). I would look for a grease zerk on the ball joint - if it is not there don't buy it. Each ball joint repaired at a shop will run about $250 - $300. Tie rods seem to last 35k to 50k, then need replacing - eat tires if you ignore. Transmission issues, timing cover gasket, and head gaskets were very bad in 95 and 96 years - absolutely don't buy years.
I think some of the 1997 and 1998 suffered from persistant issues with sliding door locking mechanism - haven't seem anything on later models. I have three co-workers with 1996 to 1998 models and all are looking to dump them because of reliability issues rising up at 75k. Saw new Freestar adds circa 18k in Chicago area. Price is surely to drop on these with new Dodge out. If you can wait a little for your used car - you will save even more because of price pressure on the new car level.
Used Odyssey is too expensive I'll agree. A 2001 EX was priced on sale for $21,500 here in Upper Midwest - might as well buy a new LX for $22,700 or less. Seeing new 2004 Dodge Grand Caravans for $15,991 in newspaper ads today with air conditioning, power windows, power locks, CD, cruise, tilt, tinted glass, and 70/70,000 warranty provides another possible option, with interest rates at record lows (most banks loaning at 4.4% or less). If nothing else, rock bottom new car prices on 04 will drive down older used car prices on existing inventories.
If safety means anything to you - the Chevy rates the worst - garnering "poor" in crash tests. Windstar may keep you alive if you get hit by many of the idiots driving a zillion miles an hour in those big SUV's.
#1391 of 2608 tamu2002- windstar purchase..
Feb 28, 2004 (10:49 am)
I would definately not go older than 1998 with a windstar & highly suggest going 1999 or newer. 1999+ has the newer body style + more reliable & updated 3.8L and a much better/more reliable intake manifold design. 2001+ have a (supossedly)stronger & hardier AX4N auto tranny, where the older models have the notoriously problematic AX4S tanny. As with any used vehicle, if it was maintained, it will last. FWIW- I just picked up a 2001 Windstar LX, 33Kmi for $11K.
Feb 28, 2004 (6:04 pm)
Thanks for you all's input. We'll move to the greater Seattle area soon and will be looking over there, probably in the latter part of the year. jtk152, that was a good deal you got there. I'm hoping to find a 2000 or 2001 model with lower than 50kmi for less than $8k. Realistic? laundryguy, sorry to hear about your problems. Like I said I'm a little troubled by all the complaints I read on Edmunds. We have a friend whose brother, mother (and herself) all own and love the Windstar. I have a co-worker who has had two of them and love(d) both. Anyway, I'll see what I can find once we settle down. I guess it'll all depend on what's available and in what shape. Thanks again. It was very informative.
Feb 29, 2004 (3:51 am)
It may be possible to find a 2000 with 50Kmi for $8K, but that would be a tough find. I have seen high milage (60Kmi+) 2000-2002's go for $8K or less- which would be a good deal if it was WELL maintained and/or has an extended warranty. Having recently bought my 2001 windstar, I can tell you, you get the most for your buck with a windstar. I shopped, haggled & test drove all the domestic minivans (2001)- chrysler, GM variants, ford. I liked them all, but the same money (for the same year & milage range) will only get you a short wheel base, smaller engine, GM or chrysler van.
#1394 of 2608 interesting thought
Mar 03, 2004 (8:31 am)
In an area where domestic brands are popular, do the used ones tend to be cheaper or more expensive than in an area where imports rule? On one hand, being more popular means there're more used cars available which should drive down the price...but demand is high too; on the other hand in an unpopular area, there're fewer domestics to choose from which ought to drive the price up, but since demand is low, the sellers might be more willing to negotiate? Does anybody have any thoughts on this?
Mar 03, 2004 (10:12 am)
I think that you think too much. Have you considered buying a Volvo?
Mar 03, 2004 (1:37 pm)
Maybe I do And I don't quite understand the connection with Volvo...
#1397 of 2608 Used car prices domestic vs imports
Mar 03, 2004 (4:21 pm)
I heard that Surburbans can be picked up in Janesville, WI, where they are manufactured, cheaper than anywhere else because employees buy them often at a discount - then sell used one themselves and get new more often. The whole area seems to get lower prices near the plant of manufacture. Just what I have heard. If you live near where a model is made that you desire, you may see a similiar result based on local ads.
#1398 of 2608 import vans..
Mar 04, 2004 (2:09 am)
Used import vans will always command a higher price than a comparable windstar regardless of area. Consumers are willing to the pay the price for a second-hand honda or toyota. It's a matter of supply and demand. If it's important to you to buy new & drive it for many years (say 7+ yrs) you will be better off with a honda or toyota van. I usually dont keep a daily driver much past 100Kmi, so nearly any make/model will get you there. Living in the rust-belt as I do (Buffalo NY), a premium dollar honda will rust out just as fast as a ford. In most cases the import bodies don't hold up as well as the domestics.
#1399 of 2608 domestic vs domestic
Mar 04, 2004 (11:14 am)
I was thinking of domestic vs domestic in different areas. Based on the supply-demand rational, I guess domestics should be cheaper where they're more popular. I used to be in Texas as you all probably guessed. The domestics there (a college town) seem to be cheaper than those in the college town in the Midwest where I'm now. I know domestics are very popular here in the midwest...Well I guess the demand could be a lot higher. Anyway, we're moving to Seattle where imports must rule. I'll see what kind of a deal on the windstar I can find. There doesn't seem to be a lot of them though looking on the internet.