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#43 of 327 Re: Dealer Badmouthing [driver100]
by markcincinnati
Aug 28, 2006 (4:48 pm)
nearly 25K miles, we've had one oil change and two wiper blade changes -- three visits to the dealer in about 18 months. The wiper blade visits were on a Saturday, unscheduled, we were in the neighborhood kind of thing and pulled in to vist the BMW Starbucks and coffee cake spread and get the blades replaced and a free vacuum, wash and tire pressure and fluid level check to boot.
I have added one pint of oil (in the first 15K miles, in response to an oil light on the dash.)
The BMW dealer even kept the washer fluid level full at our three visits.
This car is like a Bic lighter -- if the darn thing wouldn't run outta gas, I bet it would just keep on firing up!
Of course, my slightly younger Audi has been pretty trouble free if you overlook the first four pushbutton starter replacements over the first four months of ownership.
These two Germans if they prove to be on a forward basis "normal" seem to be at least as drive it and forget it as any Japanese vehicle I know about.
I have been so impressed with these two Germans, I actually don't have any "itch" whatsoever -- a first for both my wife and me.
Of course, we are looking forward to the upgraded X3 -- as a 2008 model!
#44 of 327 Re: Dealer Badmouthing [driver100]
by bodble2
Aug 28, 2006 (6:36 pm)
I do agree that reliability ratings may be over-rated. I made a point on another thread that the modern automobile has improved so much that even a car rated as "unreliable" may not be that bad. I was trying to make an analogy to the Bell Curve Grading System where someone has to come in first and someone has to come in last. So, for example, a car ranked 25th most reliable may only have statistical, and not practical, significance.
#45 of 327 Re: Dealer Badmouthing [bodble2]
by driver100
Aug 29, 2006 (9:13 am)
an analogy to the Bell Curve Grading System
That is probably a good analogy. IMO the reliability grading system is of some significance though. I considered a Freelander and Range Rover but reliability seems to be a major issue. Also, if I was looking for a real econo-car I would consider a Hyundai way before a Kia, which always rates very poor, even though it is the same company.
But probably if you are in the top 70 percentile, it is all pretty close. And who knows what the repairs really are, Mercedes was low there for awhile but they say it is mostly because they use new technology and have to perfect it. They also get hit for brake dust, but it is a case of them using better brake pads. My wife's 2003 C-Class has been fine at about 20,000 miles. The surveys do seem to have limited value. Maybe the bottom 10 or 25% of the Bell Curve should be bought with caution!
#46 of 327 Re: the RDX didn't just look competitive [markcincinnati]
by timmboj
Aug 30, 2006 (5:00 am)
Mark,
Acura's website shows them offering the base model RDX for 36-Months at $399 with $4500 due at signing.
Aug 31, 2006 (7:45 am)
I'm actually interested in both the RDX and 07 X3, I've looked at the RDX and testdriven but so far have only looked at the 06 X3. Anyone know when the 07s will actually be on lots?
the $10k difference is huge as all the 06 X3's we saw started around $42 and ended up closer to $47 while a loaded RDX was around $38.
I really do love the lushness or luxuriousness of the X3 so far and I'm itching to test drive one. From the discussion so far it appears people are leaning towards the X3 in this comparison.
Aug 31, 2006 (7:47 am)
Anyone have an idea of what a realistic 07 X3 lease would look like? Prefer a 24 month lease with around 3500-5000 down. Thanks!
#49 of 327 Re: X3 lease question [snapcracklepop]
by steve_ HOST
Aug 31, 2006 (8:03 am)
Car_man should be able to help over in the BMW X3: Lease Questions discussion.
#50 of 327 Re: X3 lease question [snapcracklepop]
by markcincinnati
Aug 31, 2006 (3:28 pm)
Don't put down any money as a CAP COST reduction. Instead put it down as multiple security deposits which serve the purpose of lowering the money factor and the monthly payment.
You get the deposit back.
If you wreck the car even with GAP protection you get back so to speak the cost of the car MINUS your downpayment.
If you have that much money to burn, please send a certified funds check to me or to your favorite charity.
Our $47K 15K per year 2005 X3 term 36 months was $250 cash down and $581 per month including tax. Plate fees were on top of this and we added two BMW accessories outside of the lease: in arm rest phone adaptor for bluetooth phone and Kleen Wheels for all four sport rims. Total accessory cost including labor under $500.
Could we have put money down? Yes.
Why?
Aug 31, 2006 (4:50 pm)
I just saw photos of the new X5 on BMW site. Both the RDX and '07 X3 are ugly ducklings next to the new X5.
Sep 01, 2006 (8:28 am)
The new X5 to my eye looks like a bigger X3.