Acura TSX vs. BMW 328i

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Replying to: shipo (Oct 28, 2006 6:53 pm)

Wow, your mileage is amazing.
 
But, if you scroll down to the "BMW 3Series:Real World MPG" board, you'll see what I meant;
 
kyfdx:15-18mpg "on grocery runs....."
jjdow:"well under 20mpg without any aggressive driving..."
benitocelli:"18-19mpg in city driving.....," and
pattiluv: "12-14mpg in city.."
 
Well, I guess, we can skip pattiluv's situation since her car has only 2000 miles. My cousin, a diehard BMW fan, who has the E46 3Series (and still owns a 3.0Z4 and 3.0X5) claims he can only get about 16-18mpg in city.
 
Now, I'm not trying to dismiss your fact. But It's kind of funny that whenever gas mileage question comes up, someone would boast about the highway mileage of a BMW. Hey, that's wonderful. I'm all for it. But what about the rest of the story??? Do BMW owners only drive on highways???
 

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Replying to: kdshapiro (Oct 29, 2006 4:16 am)

My guess is the gas variations are due the differences the way people drive the car and they way they *report* they drive the car.
 
Most definitely. Your point is well taken.
 
I, for one, can "sometimes" be classified as a grandmother in term of city driving. Since my daily drive to work is relatively short, I take a long drive (~8 miles one way) on the interstate about once every month to loosen up the engine.
 
The recent log book on Edmunds E90 330i longterm road test reveals only 27.7mpg at 80mph (using cruise control), and Blueguydotcom can attest to the same situation (28mpg at 75mph) with his E90.
 
But, hey, there is nothing to cry about. A car this much fun to drive, who keeps logs of the mileage!?!?!

Replying to: victord1 (Oct 28, 2006 8:49 pm)

kyfdx:15-18mpg "on grocery runs....."
 
Well, I suppose a grocery run one mile to the store, and one mile back might very well yield this kind of mileage as the engine isn't warmed up.
  
jjdow:"well under 20mpg without any aggressive driving..."
 
Not buying. Admittedly both of my BMWs were ordered with a 5-Speed manual transmission and that may be the differentiating factor, however, no matter how hard I thrashed either car I never got the mileage below 20. Said another way, when I picked up my 530i in Munich I kept it below 100 mph (just) for the first 1,250 miles and then bumped the cruise control up to 130 mph. The OBC (which proved to be very accurate) was registering 24 mpg at that speed. If driving at a buck thirty doesn't qualify for thrashing my car then nothing does.
 
benitocelli:"18-19mpg in city driving.....," and
 
Sounds a bit low, however, if we're talking a car with a slush box I might believe it, especially if it was an E46 325i.
  
pattiluv: "12-14mpg in city.."
 
Even though it isn't broken in yet the mileage is WAY low. Said another way, there is something very wrong with that car.
 
A year or two back on the 5-Series discussion there was a new owner of a used 530i 5-Speed who was getting low 20s on the highway. Everyone on the board kept telling her that her mileage was WAY low, and her mechanic (who didn't work for a dealership) kept saying that her mileage was typical. Stalemate.
 
I finally suggested that she have her OBC reflashed with the latest firmware from BMW (only available from a BMW dealership). In spite of the fact that she was told the reflash would cost something like $150, she had them do the flash. Her mileage instantly shot up to nearly 30 on the highway. Vindication.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo

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Replying to: victord1 (Oct 30, 2006 10:50 pm)

"Yes, whatever floats your boat."
 
Ummm, I don't understand the context.
 
"These are various city mileages that people get with their (old) 3Series."
 
It seems that you've culled the worst of the worst to make your case, a tad disingenuous. Yes, no?
 
"I can only wonder about the kind of mileage that the more powerful 335i and 328i will get."
 
Driven at the same speeds as their lesser powered ancestors, I have no doubt that they will get nearly identical (if not better) mileage. Driven up to their full potential (i.e. driving them faster than their ancestors could go) I have no doubt that their mileage will be lower. Hey, it's the price of fun.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo

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