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Acura TSX vs. BMW 328i

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Re: Acura TSX vs. BMW 325i [biker4] by johnny420
Aug 13, 2006 (9:57 am)
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Replying to: biker4 (Aug 12, 2006 3:06 pm)

With the 328 coming out, it may be an even better time to pick up a 325, pricewise.
 
FWIW, I didn't care for the leatherette at all during my test drive. Maybe some people can't tell, but I could.
 
As far as price gap goes, I wonder if Acura will up the ante when the '08 TSX comes out, as in up the price in an attempt to go more "upscale." May close that gap right up again.
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Re: Acura TSX vs. BMW 325i [johnny420] by biker4
Aug 13, 2006 (6:18 pm)
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Replying to: johnny420 (Aug 13, 2006 9:57 am)

No doubt Acura will try to up the price on the new 08 TSX (it will probably sticker over 30K) - but it has yet to prove it is able to demand the higher asking priocesk. The RDX may be a good test case - I think Acura reached a bit with the pricing (about 2-3K too high). As the RL has shown, Acura may have the right product (the RL is a good car) but the market will only go so far in terms of price - the RL sells at 42-44K but not at 50K.
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Re: tsx = more value [eegrad] by bora1
Aug 14, 2006 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: eegrad (Aug 11, 2006 1:27 pm)

The TSX does appear bigger, but they are relatively the same size. However, I do agree with you that the dash of a TSX is much nicer.
 
In terms of reliability, the 3 series has outlived the TSX in terms of being in the market longer, and they keep on selling, so they must be doing something right. The bimmers also maintain their resale value very well.
 
In terms of maintenance, how sure are you that Acura does not provide you with the minimum maintenance to maintain the vehicle past the warranty period as well? How often do you take you Acura in for the scheduled maintenance? I did some research on the 3 series vs. Acura TL/TSX, and the cost of maintaining a bimmer is lower than that of any Acura. The scheduled maintenance on a 3 Series is performed every 20,000 to 25,000 kms. In terms of maintenance costs, it is much cheaper to maintain a Bimmer than it is to maintain most of the imports and some domestic vehicles.
 
In terms of detail, the Bimmer's interior has a lot more detail than the TSX. I still don't understand why Honda has not made it mandatory to illuminate the Hazards switch when the lights are on
 
Both vehicles are really nice, but it seems that there are more perks to a Bimmer than a TSX.
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tsx = more value by daishan78
Aug 16, 2006 (10:55 am)
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Where exactly did you get you data from in regards to research and can you specify the "perks" of owning a bimmer over an acura? I find it hard to believe that reliability of a bimmer outshines the acura. This is comming from a bimmer fan whose only dislike for the company is the fact that bimmer over prices their cars.
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Honda/Acura Value by mrgold35
Aug 16, 2006 (1:19 pm)
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I’ve owned 5 Honda’s and 1 Acura in the last 15 years with combined mileage of a little less than 450,000 miles. The only maintenance issues I’ve had were electric cooling fan and A/C compressor failure. Other than the regular schedule maintenance and replacing wear/tear items (tires, brakes, filters, etc...), Honda’s have been very reliable for me and have saved me plenty of time and money by staying away from the tow trucks and repair shops. I’m willing to bet there are a lot more Honda/Acura owners who spend less time at the shop compared to BMW owners (excluding the ISUZU/Honda vehicle owners of course).
 
Keep in mind, there is no such thing as FREE MAINTENANCE. We all pay for the 4yr/48k warranty in the price of the car. Reliability is a concern to me because I plan on keeping the TSX well pass the warranty period (120,000-150,000 mile mark). If you only plan on keeping the BMW until the warranty expires and replacing the vehicle, this may be the way to go. I don’t want a car payment for the rest of my life. I prefer to pay off the car and drive trouble/payment free for 4-5 years after that. I couldn't do that in a BMW.
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Re: Honda/Acura Value [mrgold35] by potemkin
Aug 17, 2006 (10:11 am)
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Replying to: mrgold35 (Aug 16, 2006 1:19 pm)

"I prefer to pay off the car and drive trouble/payment free for 4-5 years after that. I couldn't do that in a BMW."
 
You can't?
 
I did.
 
Paid it off in 3, actually. Drove it daily for another 7. My '95 ti was mostly trouble free for the first 10 years -- after about 110k miles it did need some work replacing wear-and-tear items, but nothing that would leave me stranded. Of course, my anecdotal evidence is not proof of reliability (one way or another), or as they say on the net: YMMV.
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Re: tsx = more value [daishan78] by bora1
Aug 17, 2006 (12:44 pm)
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Replying to: daishan78 (Aug 16, 2006 10:55 am)

My data on maintenance was obtained from Acura and BMW. I visited an Acura dealer and a BMW dealer and got the maintenance schedules and price quotations from them. In terms of perks, all you have to do is look at Bimmer engineering compared to Acura engineering. The Germans pay closer attention to detail than the Japanese do (compare the 2 models physically (visit the dealerships) and you'll see for yourself). I have nothing against Japanese cars (they are really good cars as well, but I think the Bimmer has hit a mark that Honda hasn't hit yet). have owned both German and Japanese cars, and I must admit, the German cars were a better driving experience.
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Re: Honda/Acura Value [potemkin] by bora1
Aug 17, 2006 (12:46 pm)
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Replying to: potemkin (Aug 17, 2006 10:11 am)

My '95 ti was mostly trouble free for the first 10 years
 
What's a ti?
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Re: tsx = more value [bora1] by stlcarguy
Aug 17, 2006 (6:21 pm)
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Replying to: bora1 (Aug 14, 2006 9:16 am)

Not saying I know for sure that you're wrong about:
 
"I did some research on the 3 series vs. Acura TL/TSX, and the cost of maintaining a bimmer is lower than that of any Acura."
 
But Edmunds True Cost to Own estimates:
 
Repair/Maintenance cost on a 325i at $5122.
Repair/Maintenance cost on a TSX at $4326.
 
That is over a 5 year period. If BMW didn't have the maintenance program that they do, the difference would be significantly more.
 
Just thought I'd point that out. And not to beat the value horse to death, but I didn't even throw in the OTHER true cost to own factors. The largest of which being the purchase price.
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Re: Honda/Acura Value [bora1] by daishan78
Aug 18, 2006 (2:43 am)
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Replying to: bora1 (Aug 17, 2006 12:46 pm)

Well if you got those stats from Acura and BMW, well I guess I can't contest that. But as the other gentleman pointed out according to edmunds the stats are a little different.

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