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Pontiac Grand Prix Engine fires 3800 series II 1996-2003

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Re: Engine fires 3800 series II 1996-2003 [grngtp] by desi521
Mar 17, 2009 (1:05 pm)
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Replying to: grngtp (Mar 10, 2009 4:30 pm)

It did suck, Hugely!! I'm just glad I was in the drive thru of the bank & not driving on the highway or something when the fire started. The firemen actually had to cut thru all of the electrical lines up by the firewall in order to stop the stupid car. The couldn't understand it either. As I had a full tank of gas, we were also extremely grateful that it didn't explode or even that the battery didn't blow. The idiot from the insurance company said it was an electrical fire but we always believed it was due to the plastic intake manifold & now I'm just a wee bit concerned about my Grand Prix. As they physically had to hold me back from going to my car, I'm not sure which came first, the fire or the car stopping. I think that I was a bit in shock. Except for the hood, if you looked at the car from the rt side, you couldn't even tell it was burned. Even the interior was still pristine, except for having gotten wet, but it was leather, but it dried out really well. I even thought abt fixing it. The headlights didn't even break. Just the left quarterpanel was burned & of course the entire engine compartment was fried along with every wire harness being cut & burned to a crisp. I cried for a long time over that stupid car.
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Re: Engine fires 3800 series II 1996-2003 [desi521] by grngtp
Mar 17, 2009 (3:05 pm)
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Replying to: desi521 (Mar 17, 2009 12:20 pm)

The recall is only for supercharged engines. They replace the front valve cover gasket and reroute some of the wiring at the front of the engine over the exhaust manifold. There is more information in this thread, probably posted around March 2008.
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How does GM compensate owners for re-called vehicles by sly_guy
Mar 17, 2009 (7:52 pm)
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I'm at a loss for words and with a loss of vehicle... I'm wondering how is GM compensating vehicle owners for their losses. If anyone has come to a resolution with General Motors for their total loss of vehicle, please post a comment...
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Re: Engine fires 3800 series II 1996-2003 [desi521] by jettech
Mar 17, 2009 (10:36 pm)
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Replying to: desi521 (Mar 17, 2009 12:20 pm)

Take a look at this site. It explains the recall.
 
http://www.lemonauto.com/complaints/gm/pontiac_grand_prix.htm?gclid=CKKT9dztq5kC- FRlcagodtUBBKA
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2001 Grand Prix GT Coupe by ahhs
Mar 21, 2009 (2:52 pm)
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Does anyone know where I can get ahold of the weatherstripping for both door on a 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GT? The part I need is ontop of the door frame that separates the door frame from the body of the car....I can't seem to find any after 1997...
 
Thanks!
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by ahhs
Mar 21, 2009 (2:54 pm)
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I'm stupid when it comes to engines...does the recall include a 2001 GT Coupe Limited Edition model?
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'02 Pontiac Grand Am not starting by sickofpontiacs
Mar 31, 2009 (12:16 pm)
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Okay, I'm totally fed up with Pontiacs!! We have a 97 Pontiac Grand Prix that would not start. Thought it was the fuel pump. Replaced it yesterday doing the same thing. Someone said it could be the ignition switch. Hate to keep guessing and throwing money away!! Then we have a 2002 Grand Am. We have been having problems with the security on it. The car will not start and then you have to reset the code by turning the key to on, leave on for 10 minutes and then try to start. Has always worked up until yesterday when we went to store. Tried to reset code, still will not start. Had to have towed to house because the dealership has never been able to find out what's wrong. We finally figured out how to reset system from this website. So now we have not one, but two piece of craps made by Pontiac that you spend more time f-ing with than driving.
How can an individual find out if a recall has been issued in regards to the security system? Why doesn't American made cars have the same workmanship as foreign made cars? It is a total disgrace! No wonder our country is in such a disaster!! I bet the CEO's of GM and the like who make millions of dollars, don't drive GM products. It's a shame and something should be done!!
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Re: '02 Pontiac Grand Am not starting [sickofpontiacs] by tommy231
Mar 31, 2009 (6:27 pm)
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Replying to: sickofpontiacs (Mar 31, 2009 12:16 pm)

No offense meant... but how was a bad fuel pump confused with a bad ignition switch? There should never be the need to replace a fuel pump unless it is confirmed to be malfunctioning through proper diagnosis. This is true of all makes and models.
 
At minimum, you'll need a manual with an accurate schematic, a volt meter, and a fuel pressure gauge to root-cause a fuel system problem. If you think GM cars are difficult to diagnose, wait until you have a break-down on a foreign car and try to troubleshoot that yourself.
 
Many of that era GM cars were recalled due to an ignition switch problem. If it has that problem it is also a serious fire hazard. My 97 Grand Am was recalled for this. Call the dealer to find out about recalls. You'll need the VIN so they can look it up. A very recent recall notice may not yet show-up in their system, but usually a car that old has no recent recalls. One exception to this is the recall this forum is the subject of.
 
If you must troubleshoot your own vehicles, regardless of the make or model, you'll always need a credible service manual, such as a genuine OEM manual or an online service subscription. The days when you could troubleshoot a car without a manual went away with carburetors.
 
My suggestion for a service subscription is www.alldatadiy.com. It is cheap (~$17 per vehicle) and it is electronically searchable, making it better than any paper document. Alldatadiy will also show you pertinent recalls and technical service bulletins.
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Re: 2003 Grand Prix GTP on fire [grngtp] by sly_guy
Apr 09, 2009 (6:16 am)
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Replying to: grngtp (Mar 08, 2009 5:05 pm)

Thanks Jeff, no I never recieved the recall notice. GM says it probably because I purchased the vehicle used and GM system of owner addresses might not be up to date. GM sent an investigator out to inspect the vehicle and take pictures three weeks after the fire. In the meantime i'm paying storage fees to have the vehicle stored until the claim is complete; as the Pontiac dealer says they have nowhere to store the vehicle. Now GM says as in INDIANA "the Manufacturer is only responsible for defects for 4 years after the original purchase date". I wonder if they would feel responsible if there was a fatality in this case. However, GM says they will process a claim because there is an active recall. Depending on the outcome of this claim, this could possibly be the last GM vehicle I ever purchase. I'm just waiting to see if General Motors stand by their product.....
 
Keep you posted,
sly_guy
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Newb with a Supercharged 3.8L V-6 Question by mack1a
Apr 13, 2009 (3:41 pm)
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My son called today, and informed me of GM's Recall.
 
Thing is, I have an '03 Bonneville SSEI with the same engine.
Can anyone shed some light on if this Recall would involve my car?
I bought this vehicle new and all maintainance has been done by the Dealership.

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