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Pontiac Grand Prix Engine fires 3800 series II 1996-2003

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Re: grand prix gt [jessica9] by saint3
Apr 29, 2008 (5:07 pm)
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Replying to: jessica9 (Apr 21, 2008 7:58 am)

Greetings, I just wanted to let you know that there is a recall for the Buick and Pontiac with the Supercharger 1997 to 2003. Sorry that is is too late for both of us, but spread the word. It came out March 15 2008. There are a lot of people that took it in the shorts on this one, I just found out that I had to report my case to the NHTSA, besides us there were at least 267 fires with the supercharged engines. I am looking to find or start a class action against GM for making such a dangerous deffect. I feel real bad for one person that lost his 68 GTO because his sister parked her buick next to it in the Garage of course for the individual only a proper accident report and a class action suit would help him. That is all I have for now, and GM is fixing the problem but again too late for many of us. Good luck.
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Re: 1999 Grand Prix GTP Fire [outdoorlady] by saint3
Apr 29, 2008 (5:13 pm)
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Replying to: outdoorlady (Apr 28, 2008 5:47 pm)

Sorry to hear about the fire, it looks like only a class action lawsuit would help out people who have lost so much. Please contact the NHTSA with your report. I only lost my car but many people with Garages lost much more especially if the garage was built into the home. If I see any info on a class action I will post it. GM is fixing the problem with the engines but some people still do not know that they are driving a dangerous car until they are fixed. Good luck and at least no one was hurt.
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Re: grand prix gt [saint3] by elujan2006
Apr 29, 2008 (8:21 pm)
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Replying to: saint3 (Apr 29, 2008 5:07 pm)

I also lost my car to a fire. The investigator came out and hinted about a possiblity of arson. He left and told me that it would be a lengthy process. I am definitely interested in a class action lawsuit. Hopefully we can get enough people to start it.
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CLASS ACTION is our ONLY option read this by msschm22
May 01, 2008 (11:23 am)
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Hi Mr. Schmitt, I met w/ GM yesterday, 04/30/08 and since you no longer have possession of vehicle, no compensation is being considered. They have denied your claim. Without the vehicle we can not determine if the fire was related to the Recall.
 
SO any of us that sold our cars to scrap as we didnt want a burned up car or those of us that had them repaired are entitled to nothing is GM's case on this.
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lost more than the car by bzeller
May 02, 2008 (2:17 pm)
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I am interested in a class action also. GM is not doing anything about the people that scrapped their cars. Mine was totally burnt up with everything in it. I had liability so am still paying for the car. I got rid of the car before I got the recall. I have no money, so my son had to get me another car and now he is out $4000.00 which he really couldn't afford either! Among other things I lost a very extensive cd collection that I had been aquiring for years-these can't be replaced. I actually miss them more than the car. This whole thing has just caused me so much grief! Somebody out there should be able to help.
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Re: CLASS ACTION is our ONLY option read this [msschm22] by cmabry
May 03, 2008 (12:35 pm)
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Replying to: msschm22 (May 01, 2008 11:23 am)

My 2000 GTP caught fire 5 weeks ago; it was towed to a local Pontiac dealer and has been sitting there untouched for 5 weeks. I have been in contact with GM daily and just found out that the engineers determined my fire to be consistent with the recall, however the legal team said they would not pay for it that my insurance will have to pay for it!!! What a bunch of crap!!! (my insurance was ready to fix it 5 weeks ago, but I was told by GM that it sounds like a perfect fit for the recall and that GM will take care of it! Anyone else have any luck with GM actually fixing this problem?
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Re: CLASS ACTION is our ONLY option read this [cmabry] by jer9
May 04, 2008 (9:31 pm)
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Replying to: cmabry (May 03, 2008 12:35 pm)

well this weekend i did a little maint. to the 2003 pontiac grad prix gt 3800 II .
guess what i found under the old hood a " fuel leak", seams they have had this trouble in the past as well, on the grand ams.
where the fuel line "from the tank" conects to the "fuel rail", seems their great plastic conector is to close to the heat, guess where it leaks on "thats right" the very hot intake around the injectors. it just sits there and pools up.
what i went on to disscover was that it didn't leak until the engine was turnd off.
it didn't leak under pressure.
dont know if this is the cause of all the fires,but i think the fuel would ignite faster than the " oil leak".
#217 of 302
Re: Engine fires 3800 series II 1996-2003 [njbrain] by jer9
May 04, 2008 (9:37 pm)
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Replying to: njbrain (Sep 04, 2006 5:49 pm)

yes i found it today came here to see if anyone else had this happen and yep here you are.
seems their pastic connector cant take the heat.
how did you fix it?
jtmandyiowatelecom.net
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CLASS ACTION ATTY with Success by msschm22
May 05, 2008 (1:37 pm)
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Go to this website www.girardgibbs.com Maybe if enough of us get this atty an email he will see there is a large case here and that GM isnt helping anyone out. I say we bombard him with examples and information till we get this started. He has won against GM before so he can do it again.
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Re: CLASS ACTION is our ONLY option read this [jer9] by grngtp
May 05, 2008 (2:17 pm)
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Replying to: jer9 (May 04, 2008 9:31 pm)

quote - jer9 ======
 
well this weekend i did a little maint. to the 2003 pontiac grad prix gt 3800 II .
guess what i found under the old hood a " fuel leak", seams they have had this trouble in the past as well, on the grand ams.
where the fuel line "from the tank" conects to the "fuel rail", seems their great plastic conector is to close to the heat, guess where it leaks on "thats right" the very hot intake around the injectors. it just sits there and pools up.
what i went on to disscover was that it didn't leak until the engine was turnd off.
it didn't leak under pressure.
dont know if this is the cause of all the fires,but i think the fuel would ignite faster than the " oil leak".
 
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I hope that what has failed is the O-ring in the connector and not the connector. The connnector is part of the fuel line and then you would have to replace the entire line.
 
I've got a 98 GTP with nylon fuel lines to the rail and metal connectors. Not sure exactly what the 03 GT uses, but the metal and plastic connectors for the 98 are similar and both us an O-ring that should be replaceable. For the metal connector, a special tool is needed to disconnect the lines, the tool is inexpensive and can be purchased at an auto parts store for less than $10.
 
I don't know if the specific O-rings can be bought at an auto parts store or not. I'm planning on replacing the O-rings on my car just as part of general maintenance and will buy them from the dealer.
 
I think this is a good find (I missed the first post on the fuel leak). At least with the metal connector, the O-rings at the connector are subjected to engine vibration and movement which would degrade the seal in addition to heat.
 
Jeff

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