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Pontiac Grand Prix Engine fires 3800 series II 1996-2003

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Pontiac Grand Prix is a riding BOMB by reginah
Apr 09, 2008 (12:08 pm)
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I have a 2000 GP-GTP, thank god it has not caught fire. I have received the recall letter from GM, called the dealer and they don't know anything about the recall. Called another dealer and they said to wait for another letter from GM. The Grand Prix is a total waste of a car. I have just reached 90k, have had 4 batteries-cause unknown, 2 alternators, hub bearing assemblies, tie rods, back windows fall down-have it propped up with a grip vise, leather seats are tearing up-don't think they are leather, 3 sets of tires that wear so badly down to the wire-I drive under 10k per year, numerous brake pads. Now I prepare to get my emission and had to replace the temp sensor-engine light on, after replacing and driving a few days-light back on. Pontiac has built a total lemon, I will never purchase their car again. The sad part is that GM act like they don't know what is going on-because they know this would be a big loss for them to recall and pay for all the burnt up vehicles. They are trying to get out of this, but we as loyal GM customers need to fight them to the end. Everyone needs to contact the BBB and file a complaint with them, once so many of us complain, this will get the ball rolling. GM is taking their time to fix the problem-they probably don't know what to do to fix it. This car is a piece of mess. I am outraged over this. People lives could have been lost and they are acting so non-chalant about it. GM think they have problems-they are continually losing more and more customers with their arrogrance. Eventually there will be no more GM if they don't change with the quickness. The only reason I purchased another GM product is because I was a former employee and was offered a discount, otherwise I would have not purchased an American car they suck. Everyone contact the BBB in detroit and file a complaint.
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Re: Pontiac Grand Prix is a riding BOMB [reginah] by spanky628
Apr 09, 2008 (12:29 pm)
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Replying to: reginah (Apr 09, 2008 12:08 pm)

quote: I have received the recall letter from GM, called the dealer and they don't know anything about the recall. Called another dealer and they said to wait for another letter from GM.
 
The dealer should be notified the day the recall is sent out to customers. I being a Dodge, Chrysler, Jeep parts manager, am notified the day the recall is released. They better check their mail. Also you don't wait on another letter, they only send one recall letter. They have the recall number and that's all they need. Sometimes it takes time to get new recall parts with so many people needing them. If they don't know how to get the recall parts and let you know when to bring it I would find another dealer. And what's going to hurt is all the people that are not the original owners or gm doesn't have their contact information. They are driving these time bombs and will never get a letter. Hope fully they will hear about on tv or something.
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Re: my car [jodi84] by gaffnej
Apr 10, 2008 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: jodi84 (Apr 01, 2008 10:40 am)

Hi, Was your car total loss by insurance? The reason why I was asking is because my car caught on fire, and I have been contacted by GMC, and just trying to figure out the process, if their is one. Any and all information is greatly appreciated! I thank God for this very informative forum!!
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Re: my car [gaffnej] by msschm22
Apr 10, 2008 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: gaffnej (Apr 10, 2008 8:37 am)

Yes a total loss. a $10K car was scrapped off to an auction and recieved 575.00 for it which barely covered the new tires I put on it a month earlier. I have called GM and they are wanting the Fire Department records insurance policy and the proof of being sold off as scrap/salvage. Once they have all that then the fun begins to try and see what they will do for us.
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Re: my car [gaffnej] by gtp03daw
Apr 10, 2008 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: gaffnej (Apr 10, 2008 8:37 am)

Hello, Well my car was a total loss. My insurance company claimed arson and that I did it. GM denied my bumper to bumber 100,000 5yr warranty. The said that "fires weren't an issue on Grand Prix". Actually I haven't been able to find anyone at GM to talk to me yet. I think they're still reeling from 200,000+ cars in the recall. This has been going on for me since he car burned in Feb of 2003. I hope you fair better than me and some others...Lemme know !!
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grand prix gt by jsprouse
Apr 12, 2008 (5:52 pm)
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has anyone had any fires with the grand prix gt? I have been smelling a hot smell comeing throught my vents, when I look under the hood i do not see or smell anything, this only seems to happen when the heater is on? does anyone know what this could be. there is only 70000 miles on my 2002 . i have parked it since finding this forum and reading about the fires. i have 2 small children and would never risk a fire with them in the car. gm should really take this into consideration when telling people to go ahead and drive their cars.
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Re: grand prix gt [jsprouse] by grngtp
Apr 12, 2008 (6:36 pm)
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Replying to: jsprouse (Apr 12, 2008 5:52 pm)

I have been smelling a hot smell comeing throught my vents, when I look under the hood i do not see or smell anything, this only seems to happen when the heater is on?
 
Does the odor smell sweet? You may have a leaking heater core and you could be smelling anti-freeze. Has the car been using anti-freeze? A mechanic should be able to check for a leaking heater core.
 
Jeff
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Re: grand prix gt [grngtp] by jsprouse
Apr 13, 2008 (5:56 pm)
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Replying to: grngtp (Apr 12, 2008 6:36 pm)

no the smell is a burning hot smell, kind of a mix between oil and something. If anyone knows of a cause yet of the fires, please let me know , i want to fix this problem (if the gt's have one) before any fire can start. full coverage insurance wouldnt even begin to pay what i have for this car. my 2002 is in great condition, just got it paid for and i don't want to be in debt for another one.
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Re: grand prix gt [jsprouse] by gtp03daw
Apr 14, 2008 (3:19 am)
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Replying to: jsprouse (Apr 13, 2008 5:56 pm)

And for everyone else...Still waiting to here from Pontiac on my toased GTP that went up in 03..You have to keep calling in to bug the poop out of them...But..Check the exhaust front and rear manifolds..Check for any oil leaks...If you can't then take it in to a GM dealer ASAP for the safety recall. They'll replace only the fron valve cover gasket. I had mine done on my 03 because I smelled smoke 2 weeks after I got my letters. After the fix I continued to smell burning oil. I took it back in and we put it on the rack. The oil pan gasket was rotted out in spots, dripping down on the pipes...It's a fairly intensive repair...stearing has to be dropped and removed..It's starting to look like GM used some very cheap gaskets. My car only has 66,000 miles. An oil pan gasket is usually a lifetime item unless there's other problems like main bearing seal or oil pump...Certainly a min of 100,000 miles...66,000 miles is rediculas...I'm still fighting w/Pontiac on this one and my 99, the repairs for that is about 800.00...Pontiac is claiming it's not related...
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Re: grand prix gt [jsprouse] by ihl
Apr 14, 2008 (7:07 am)
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Replying to: jsprouse (Apr 13, 2008 5:56 pm)

If you smell what you are describing you best get full coverage and get it in to get it fixed at GM's expense don't park in a garage or under a structure

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