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#165 of 317 Re: Engine fires 3800 series II 1996-2003 [jmac74] by msossama Mar 17, 2008 (4:17 pm)
Replying to: jmac74 (Mar 14, 2008 6:36 pm) Count me in! Replies to this message: grngtp (Mar 19, 2008 5:50 pm) bedens (Mar 20, 2008 5:38 am)
#166 of 317 Re: Engine fires 3800 series II 1996-2003 [msossama] by grngtp Mar 19, 2008 (5:50 pm)
Replying to: msossama (Mar 17, 2008 4:17 pm) I've owned my 98 GTP since 98 when it was purchased new. At 2 years and 14K it kicked a rod out during normal driving and new long block was installed under warranty. At about 6 months later at 18K the supercharger was replaced because the oil was leaking from the front seal. It wasn't dripping oil but was being slung by the spinning pulley and was visible on the firewall and hood insulation. In spite of these problems I am really pleased with the car and have felt very confident that I’d be driving it home, no matter how long the trip. The car only has 50K miles mainly from driving vacations.   The letter arrived in the mail Monday, Mar. 17, and my immediate response was my car is well maintained and in excellent condition, this couldn‘t happen to me. A Google search turned up this forum and my confidence in the safety of the car dropped.   One common thread in the fires reported here is that the fire starts about 10-15 minutes after stopping or during low/idle speed running. That suggests some type of heat soak phenomena. I looked at the engine today and everything was dry - no oil anywhere. What was apparent was the fuel lines that are just above the drive gears of the supercharger. If the supercharger is low on or out of oil, it would run very hot. The heat that would be carried away while the car was moving at speed would be trapped by the engine cover after stopping. The fuel lines would heat soak under the cover and temperatures and pressure may exceed seal limits resuting in a gas leak.   Have any of the fires occurred in vehicles that have had the supercharger oil level maintained? I’ve added over 4 oz in 32K miles and I think the capacity is 8 oz. I can’t see any obvious leaks. The manual says to check the level every 30K or 36 months, which seems optimistic to me.   I am having some difficulty understanding how oil can get on the exhaust manifold to a degree that it will ignite 10-15 minutes after stopping. I don’t think anyone has remarked that they noticed a strong oil smell when leaving the vehicle. If someone has more information about the oil theory, please share what you know. Replies to this message: bedens (Mar 20, 2008 5:38 am)
#167 of 317 Marshmellow by gtp03daw Mar 20, 2008 (4:03 am)
#168 of 317 Marshmallow's Con't from Post # 22 by gtp03daw Mar 20, 2008 (4:14 am)
Well..Just an update here. I recieved my "Huston we have a problem" letter from GM saying thier "still gearing" up on "supplies" needed to replace. I contacted Pontiac last week after hearing the news about 1999 - 2003 GTP's recall. When they called back I was told that "GM needs more time to identify the involved vin numbers." I replied that they ALREADY HAD AT LEAST ONE and that 5yrs ( in my case ) was more than ample time. I've posted their responce and contacts for general enjoyment. We need to keep the preasure up until they take care of us that experienced total loss and zero reimbursement...   Service Request: XX-XXXXXXXXX Relationship Specialist: Chris Roberts Customer cacpontiac.com   Dear Mr. XXXXXXXX   Thank you for contacting the Pontiac Customer Assistance Center. We appreciate you taking the time to write us in regards to the reimbursement inquiry for your 19991 Pontiac Grand Prix. We would like to extend our sincere apologies for any inconvenience this concern has caused. Based on the information that we have here, General Motors is still doing an extensive investigation hand in hand with National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.   Due to parts availability, corrective action will occur in two stages. First, a “customer advisory letter” is being sent to each involved customer of record. This letter will explain the situation and provide precautionary measures that a customer can take until their vehicle is repaired. The letter was mailed on March 13, 2008.      The second stage will be the release of Safety Recall Bulletin #07035 to all Pontiac and Buick dealers. This will occur once an adequate supply of recall parts is available. At that time, all involved customers of record will be notified via a second letter to bring their vehicle in for the required repair.   As per our conversation a while ago, I advise you to wait for further notification from General Motors. I have created a file regarding this matter and the Service request number is 71-612614273. This serves as your reference number regarding this issue.   If you should need to contact us in the future, simply reply to this message or call our Pontiac Customer Assistance Center at 1- 800-762-2737. Customer Relationship Specialists are available Monday through Friday from 8:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m., Eastern Time.   Again, thank you for contacting Pontiac. Sincerely, The Pontiac Consumer Support Team Replies to this message: juliehaugland (Mar 20, 2008 5:05 am) gtp03daw (Mar 20, 2008 6:05 am)
#169 of 317 Grand Prix GTP Engine Fires by juliehaugland Mar 20, 2008 (5:05 am)
Replying to: gtp03daw (Mar 20, 2008 4:14 am) I had a 99 GTP engine fire in April 2006. I contacted GM at the time of the fire but I had already turned the car over to my insurance company so nothing could really be done...until now. After receiving notification of the recall I contacted GM. They have been more than helpful. I am in the process of getting together all of the documents they requested (ie: insurance claim, letter outlining loss degree, etc.). I am confident GM will be reimbursing me my insurance deductible ($500) at the very least. A class action suit could take years. Yes, the idea of it sounds appealing but I plan to see what GM will do for me first. I reccommend contacting GM if you experienced a total loss. For everyone else, get the problem fixed asap and be thankful you didn't lose your car yet!!!! Thank goodness for this forum, I have been following it since the fire! Replies to this message: gtp03daw (Mar 20, 2008 6:05 am)
#170 of 317 Re: Engine fires 3800 series II 1996-2003 [grngtp] by bedens Mar 20, 2008 (5:38 am)
Replying to: grngtp (Mar 19, 2008 5:50 pm) My car that burned was a 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GT not GTP and when I stopped the car I didn't smell ANYTHING.
#171 of 317 Re: Grand Prix GTP Engine Fires [juliehaugland] by gtp03daw Mar 20, 2008 (6:05 am)
Replying to: juliehaugland (Mar 20, 2008 5:05 am) Do you have that contact information ? Or was it the 1-800 number on the Safety Notice that was mailed last week ? I sent a message to Pontiac and my responce above is what I recieved...But if there's another back door ? I recieved nothing. Not from Insurance ( they accused me of Arson ) and nothing feom my Extended 100,000 mile Warranty. Car only had 62,000 miles.
#172 of 317 Recall info by johnny_rotten Mar 20, 2008 (6:23 am)
The NHTSA said that if the exhaust manifold is hot enough and the oil gets below a heat shield, "it may ignite into a small flame and in some cases fire may spread to the plastic spark plug wire channel."   If GM will release the recall, and they will update my Alldata, I can give you the actual bulletin.
#174 of 317 Re: Engine fires 3800 series II 1996-2003 [jmac74] by saint3 Mar 20, 2008 (7:27 pm)
Replying to: jmac74 (Mar 14, 2008 6:36 pm) I feel your pain, and yes we need a class action lawsuit started. Count me in I had a 2002 40th Anniversary GTP Sedan and in 3 Jan of 2007 it became a total loss with a fire after i went into a store, I was lucky that my 2 kids and me were not in it and I parked it far from other vehicles so the fire did not damage anything else. Just like most people that contacted GM were told that your car was a fluke and that they have not heard of it happening before but here we are 267 cases later. By the way GM actually offered me book value even though there was nothing wrong with my car and I would have to sign a release stating that I could not go after them again. I did NOT take their offer. I feel really bad for the people that had structure damage, which means garage or house damage. If I find out anything I will post it, my e-mail is santiagosantossbcglobal.net Replies to this message: mgardner1976 (Mar 24, 2008 7:35 am)

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