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#160 of 317 Re: Engine fires 3800 series II 1996-2003 [jmac74] by elujan2006 Mar 16, 2008 (8:36 am)
Replying to: jmac74 (Mar 14, 2008 6:36 pm) I'm with you. Exactly what I was thinking.
#161 of 317 Re: 5yrs later... [bedens] by jessica9 Mar 17, 2008 (9:12 am)
Replying to: bedens (Mar 14, 2008 6:59 am) I also have a Gt the burned totally and is still sitting in my driveway. I was one of the first ones to contact the NSHTa and they contacted me also but also have done nothing for me. There are quite a few GTs that have also burned. They are the same engine so why are they not recalling the GTs too? I am going to contact the papers arunf Chicago maybe that will get their attention about the GTs Replies to this message: bedens (Mar 17, 2008 9:36 am) dvcourt (Apr 28, 2008 3:32 pm)
#162 of 317 recall by jessica9 Mar 17, 2008 (9:15 am)
Funny thing the just did a recall I just read in my local paper that FORD has had a couple incidents of car fires and have already done a recall. Whatis wrong with GM?I still thimk something should be done. Whoever posted about a class action lawsuit I'm with you, All cars with the 3800 series II engines need to be included
#163 of 317 Re: 5yrs later... [jessica9] by bedens Mar 17, 2008 (9:36 am)
Replying to: jessica9 (Mar 17, 2008 9:12 am) I don't what their problem is. I have tried getting this story on Oprah but haven't heard from her office since I submitted the story. I am still trying though. Jmac said something about a civil action lawsuit a couple of years ago but haven't heard anything from him on that. Most attorneys don't want the case because no one has gotten hurt or died that I know of. It's all about the money to them. Saving lives means nothing anymore.
#164 of 317 Re: the CARBBQ Jan 2006 in 1999 grand prix [msschm22] by msossama Mar 17, 2008 (4:13 pm)
Replying to: msschm22 (Mar 15, 2008 10:42 am) You can add me to the list. Mine started on fire 3/13/08. I got the recall notice on 3/15/08. I had no idea regarding these fires. My email is msossamayahoo.com I have registered a complaint with the NHSTA and the Federal Trade Commission. I called Pontiac on 3/14/2008 and they still haven't called me back. They have transferred my case to 3 different allogations reps today alone.
#165 of 317 Re: Engine fires 3800 series II 1996-2003 [jmac74] by msossama Mar 17, 2008 (4:17 pm)
Replying to: jmac74 (Mar 14, 2008 6:36 pm) Count me in! Replies to this message: grngtp (Mar 19, 2008 5:50 pm) bedens (Mar 20, 2008 5:38 am)
#166 of 317 Re: Engine fires 3800 series II 1996-2003 [msossama] by grngtp Mar 19, 2008 (5:50 pm)
Replying to: msossama (Mar 17, 2008 4:17 pm) I've owned my 98 GTP since 98 when it was purchased new. At 2 years and 14K it kicked a rod out during normal driving and new long block was installed under warranty. At about 6 months later at 18K the supercharger was replaced because the oil was leaking from the front seal. It wasn't dripping oil but was being slung by the spinning pulley and was visible on the firewall and hood insulation. In spite of these problems I am really pleased with the car and have felt very confident that I’d be driving it home, no matter how long the trip. The car only has 50K miles mainly from driving vacations.   The letter arrived in the mail Monday, Mar. 17, and my immediate response was my car is well maintained and in excellent condition, this couldn‘t happen to me. A Google search turned up this forum and my confidence in the safety of the car dropped.   One common thread in the fires reported here is that the fire starts about 10-15 minutes after stopping or during low/idle speed running. That suggests some type of heat soak phenomena. I looked at the engine today and everything was dry - no oil anywhere. What was apparent was the fuel lines that are just above the drive gears of the supercharger. If the supercharger is low on or out of oil, it would run very hot. The heat that would be carried away while the car was moving at speed would be trapped by the engine cover after stopping. The fuel lines would heat soak under the cover and temperatures and pressure may exceed seal limits resuting in a gas leak.   Have any of the fires occurred in vehicles that have had the supercharger oil level maintained? I’ve added over 4 oz in 32K miles and I think the capacity is 8 oz. I can’t see any obvious leaks. The manual says to check the level every 30K or 36 months, which seems optimistic to me.   I am having some difficulty understanding how oil can get on the exhaust manifold to a degree that it will ignite 10-15 minutes after stopping. I don’t think anyone has remarked that they noticed a strong oil smell when leaving the vehicle. If someone has more information about the oil theory, please share what you know. Replies to this message: bedens (Mar 20, 2008 5:38 am)
#167 of 317 Marshmellow by gtp03daw Mar 20, 2008 (4:03 am)
#168 of 317 Marshmallow's Con't from Post # 22 by gtp03daw Mar 20, 2008 (4:14 am)
Well..Just an update here. I recieved my "Huston we have a problem" letter from GM saying thier "still gearing" up on "supplies" needed to replace. I contacted Pontiac last week after hearing the news about 1999 - 2003 GTP's recall. When they called back I was told that "GM needs more time to identify the involved vin numbers." I replied that they ALREADY HAD AT LEAST ONE and that 5yrs ( in my case ) was more than ample time. I've posted their responce and contacts for general enjoyment. We need to keep the preasure up until they take care of us that experienced total loss and zero reimbursement...   Service Request: XX-XXXXXXXXX Relationship Specialist: Chris Roberts Customer cacpontiac.com   Dear Mr. XXXXXXXX   Thank you for contacting the Pontiac Customer Assistance Center. We appreciate you taking the time to write us in regards to the reimbursement inquiry for your 19991 Pontiac Grand Prix. We would like to extend our sincere apologies for any inconvenience this concern has caused. Based on the information that we have here, General Motors is still doing an extensive investigation hand in hand with National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.   Due to parts availability, corrective action will occur in two stages. First, a “customer advisory letter” is being sent to each involved customer of record. This letter will explain the situation and provide precautionary measures that a customer can take until their vehicle is repaired. The letter was mailed on March 13, 2008.      The second stage will be the release of Safety Recall Bulletin #07035 to all Pontiac and Buick dealers. This will occur once an adequate supply of recall parts is available. At that time, all involved customers of record will be notified via a second letter to bring their vehicle in for the required repair.   As per our conversation a while ago, I advise you to wait for further notification from General Motors. I have created a file regarding this matter and the Service request number is 71-612614273. This serves as your reference number regarding this issue.   If you should need to contact us in the future, simply reply to this message or call our Pontiac Customer Assistance Center at 1- 800-762-2737. Customer Relationship Specialists are available Monday through Friday from 8:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m., Eastern Time.   Again, thank you for contacting Pontiac. Sincerely, The Pontiac Consumer Support Team Replies to this message: juliehaugland (Mar 20, 2008 5:05 am) gtp03daw (Mar 20, 2008 6:05 am)
#169 of 317 Grand Prix GTP Engine Fires by juliehaugland Mar 20, 2008 (5:05 am)
Replying to: gtp03daw (Mar 20, 2008 4:14 am) I had a 99 GTP engine fire in April 2006. I contacted GM at the time of the fire but I had already turned the car over to my insurance company so nothing could really be done...until now. After receiving notification of the recall I contacted GM. They have been more than helpful. I am in the process of getting together all of the documents they requested (ie: insurance claim, letter outlining loss degree, etc.). I am confident GM will be reimbursing me my insurance deductible ($500) at the very least. A class action suit could take years. Yes, the idea of it sounds appealing but I plan to see what GM will do for me first. I reccommend contacting GM if you experienced a total loss. For everyone else, get the problem fixed asap and be thankful you didn't lose your car yet!!!! Thank goodness for this forum, I have been following it since the fire! Replies to this message: gtp03daw (Mar 20, 2008 6:05 am)

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