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Re: Problem or not with digital readout for TCH [loves2read] by larsb
Jun 09, 2008 (8:45 am)
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Replying to: loves2read (Jun 09, 2008 8:24 am)

Sounds normal to me. I have owned a 2007 TCH for just a little over 2 years now.
 
Let me ask you - does this happen more often during the start of a trip?
 
What is happening to your dial is that when the car is NOT in electric mode, you will see the needle in the 20-60 MPG range regardless of the situation with the gas pedal.
 
If the car is in E-Mode, then the needle will stay in the blue E area.
 
Just because you think you are not giving the car any gas does not mean it is not USING gasoline - it uses gasoline the entire time it is NOT in electric mode.
 
The car does not AUTOMATICALLY switch to E-Mode every time you stop giving it gas.

 
The only time it will be (and stay) in the blue E area is in electric mode.
 
I don't think your car has any kind of problem.
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Re: Problem or not with digital readout for TCH [loves2read] by tbone0526
Jun 09, 2008 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: loves2read (Jun 09, 2008 8:24 am)

What you're describing doesn't sound all that unusual, for two reasons that come to my mind:
 
- First, you're stating you're "not using any gas", when in reality what you've done is let up on the accelerator pedal. The "brain" of the car sends gas through the engine, relies on the battery, or both, depending on power needs at the time. If the car was just started or if you've come off of a long coast, the system may be working to recharge the hybrid battery, so it won't necessarily cut off the ICE (internal combustion engine). I find my car often stays at around 40MPG if I'm cruising on the highway.
 
- Second, it takes a delicate touch to lift off the accelerator just enough to disengage the ICE and rely solely on the hybrid drive. If your MPG dial is at 20MPG, then pull up off the pedal just a hair more.
 
It takes a period of adjustment to drive this car at maximum efficiency, and while I've had mine for over 2 months, I still occasionally find myself pressing harder on the pedal than I need to, causing the MPG dial to move into the 20MPG or less range.
 
FYI, when I drive the car I've typically been averaging average around 40-41MPG over the course of several days. When my wife drives the same vehicle under the same conditions, she gets 32-35. She's not a leadfoot, just not as obsessed as I am with maximizing fuel efficiency.
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Re: Problem or not with digital readout for TCH [tbone0526] by larsb
Jun 09, 2008 (8:56 am)
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Replying to: tbone0526 (Jun 09, 2008 8:53 am)

Just goes to reinforce the old saying,
 
"You can lead a Woman to a hybrid, but........."
 

 
P.S. One of the funniest things I ever saw was at a Target about 4 years ago. Saw an OLD, OLD lady parking in the handicapped spot. She had several minor dings and dents in her car, which to me looked like a severe case of "little-old-lady-driveritis." Her car: A 2004 Honda Civic HYBRID. My guess is that some salesman saw her coming and said, "Let's maximize profits by selling this sweet old lady a hybrid instead of an LX."
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Re: Problem or not with digital readout for TCH [larsb] by loves2read
Jun 09, 2008 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jun 09, 2008 8:56 am)

I appreciate the responses but maybe I did not make myself clear or maybe I don't understand the hybrid system---
 
this usually happens more after the car has been driven a while--
can happen when battery is full or when it has been reduced somewhat by use according to the bars I see on the gauge
 
so if I am driving my car at more than 40 mph--my readout says I am using the conventional engine--my MPG dial is maybe 20-30-35-40 MPG read out--just depends on terrain and speed and other variables
 
when I start to coast and NOT have my foot on accelator--my car goes into battery recharge mode---correct?
that is the E mode--is it not?
 
so if I am in battery recharge mode--why does my MPG dial not go to E mode as well?
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Re: Problem or not with digital readout for TCH [larsb] by tbone0526
Jun 09, 2008 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jun 09, 2008 8:56 am)

Now you're just trying to get me in trouble.....LOL
 
I was NOT in any way trying to disparage my wife's driving, just trying to illustrate the difference in how the car performs based on whether you're "trying" or not.
#187 of 228
Re: Problem or not with digital readout for TCH [loves2read] by tbone0526
Jun 09, 2008 (9:31 am)
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Replying to: loves2read (Jun 09, 2008 9:00 am)

"so if I am driving my car at more than 40 mph--my readout says I am using the conventional engine--my MPG dial is maybe 20-30-35-40 MPG read out--just depends on terrain and speed and other variables"
 
The engine is -always- on above 41MPH or so. The instant MPG you're seeing displayed depends on a LOT of variables including those you mentioned and more. Without having a logic chart showing all the factors the car takes into consideration (which I'd LOVE to see), we pretty much have to rely on the onboard sensors to detect if there is a problem. If they're not finding one, you should be in good shape.
 
Also remember that one of the most frustrating things a service department has to deal with is when someone says "it does XXX now and then, but I can't predict when or make it happen when I want to." Warranty typically only pays for a problem that can be identified. Unless a problem is repeatable, you could find yourself spending a lot of money trying to track down a ghost when there's nothing actually wrong with the car.
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Re: Problem or not with digital readout for TCH [loves2read] by lzc
Jun 09, 2008 (7:02 pm)
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Replying to: loves2read (Jun 09, 2008 9:00 am)

First, no one on this board can know whether or not your hybrid system is working properly. Have it checked if you think it isn't.
 
However, the engine will run if it determines that the battery needs charging, whether or not your foot is off the accelerator. In short, it operates (at times at least) independent of you, and possibly contrary to what you expect it to do.
 
If the engine is running to recharge the battery, then you wouldn't expect to see the MPG dial at E.
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Re: Gas Tank Reserve [wvgasguy] by loves2read
Jun 18, 2008 (5:25 am)
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Replying to: wvgasguy (Aug 10, 2006 6:33 pm)

we have new 09 TCH--little over 1K in miles--and made our 3rd fillup yesterday under the 0 crusing range and E on the fuel gauge--my husband was kind of nervous because we fill up at place several miles from home where we get discounted gas with our Kroger car--
when he filled up he put in 14.2 gals I think--and he does not usually pump it to add a couple of extra bursts...
so I know that there is more in the tank
can't remember the exact mileage on the trip meter but about 470
I am not getting top MPG so far --33.2-33.8 avg mpg...
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Re: Gas Tank Reserve [loves2read] by shazam3
Jun 18, 2008 (2:55 pm)
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Replying to: loves2read (Jun 18, 2008 5:25 am)

Hi loves2read,
 
I'm getting the same MPG as you currently are. So far I've put a little over 500 miles on my 09 TCH. I'm halfway through my second tank. Like you, I also waited a while after the 0 cruising range and E on the fule gage to fill up. My first fill up was a little over 15 gallons. The manual states the total tank capacity is 17.2 gallons, so I guess we still have about 3 gallons left in the tank after reaching when 0 cruising range and E on the fuel gage.
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Re: Gas Tank Reserve [shazam3] by loves2read
Jun 18, 2008 (3:36 pm)
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Replying to: shazam3 (Jun 18, 2008 2:55 pm)

my husband was driving--when he got in the car and saw the needle on the big E-- he said right away we have to get gas--
I told him there were 2-3 gallons in there still--that the car was supposed to go about 600 on optimum mpg
so we could go another 30 mi at least--but he would not even wait until we ate supper===
went to fill the tank right away---
did not want to take a chance on the tank going dry and not having enough juice in the battery...

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