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Honda Civic, Coupe, Sedan
Jan 03, 2009 (1:00 pm)
I believe it has to do with a design flaw in the car. I have a 2007 Civic and the car has alot of swaying and vibration problems in heavy rain or snowy conditions. Honda says there is nothing they can do because it is not a safty issue because Honda is not aware of anyone being killed because of this problem. I am here to tell you on some days the car is undrivable past 45 mph it vibrates so badly you think the car will come apart. It dosen't do it all the time. The car vibrates the worse in snowy conditions when snow is accumulating in the wheel well and in heavy rain. Anyway, I have owned several cars and lived in the north my entire life and I have never had a car do what this car does. I am also a military and commercial pilot and I am use to handling equipement at high speeds in snow and ice; I dont trust this car in the snow or heavy rain.
Jan 03, 2009 (1:55 pm)
I too hate, hate, hate the handling of this car. Handles like a cheap car would, and this wasn't cheap. After 36k on oem tires I have new ones and it is a little better but not close to where it should be. I certainly won't buy Honda. again
#208 of 263 Re: design flaw [pelegrin]
Jan 03, 2009 (2:07 pm)
I have experienced vibration as you described on other cars, particularly those with full wheel covers. What happens is snow/slush gets stuck between the cover and wheel, and freezes. That throws the wheel out of balance and you get vibration at higher speeds. If that is in fact what is happening, one way to avoid it is to get alloy wheels.
Now, if the car is doing this in rain (not freezing rain) too, then there's something very strange going on with the car. Rain should not cause vibration, and if the tires have good tread on them and your speed is reasonable for conditions, there should be no swaying either unless it's buffeting from strong winds--that can happen with small, light cars like the Civic.
#209 of 263 Re: [flseadan]
Jan 16, 2009 (3:05 am)
The service bulletin number for the alignment problem is 08-011.
I went to the dealer as a result of a discussion in another blog about handling problems on slippery pavement. Mine was so bad I had started looking at buying a new//different car.
The dealer will replace the rear upper control arms which (originally) were designed to "tilt" the wheels allowing for better handling. Only problem with this great idea is that it causes uneven tire wear (a prerequisite to having the dealer replace the parts and to do an alignment on Honda) and lack of control on slippery pavement.
Mine was fixed yesterday. My fingers and toes are crossed cause I love this little car and want to keep it.
Feb 02, 2009 (9:20 pm)
I have a 2006 lx coupe and I need tires. I live in the midwest and I am looking for a good all season tire that has decent traction in snowy conditions. The Bridgestones were awful. Any thoughts are appreciated.
#211 of 263 Re: Fix Done [sandman46]
Mar 16, 2009 (9:30 am)
Sandman, Let me know if you continue to have success. I had the exact same problem on my 07 Civic. After several heated conversations with the dealership, they grudgingly mentioned the service bulletin. Had the fix done, got some money back for the new tires, this was in late July. Guess what...it's howling and chopping up my tires again It just started a few weeks ago, so I guess I'll take it back to my mechanic for yet another alignment and tire rotation.
#212 of 263 Re: 2006 Civic LX with rear upper control arm issues, advice? [politeness99]
Mar 16, 2009 (9:58 am)
On my son's '06 Civic, the tires wore out at 25,000 miles. He now has 70,000 miles and I will see how these do. This is the third set of tires. My dealer swares that it was out of alignment and that it was out of alignment due to his driving. I know this can't be. I was extremely disappointed that a Honda would have this kind of problem. This is more like something from GM or Chrysler than a Honda. In fact, I have driven both and I have never had this from them. I have an '05 Accord and I have not had issues with it and it has 82,000 miles and I just replaced the original set of tires. They still had tread left. On the Accord forum, I am reading about their issues and I am thinking that maybe Honda is not what it used to be. I have been helping my brother find a used Odyssey. In the Odyssey forum, I can't believe the problems they have had with transmission failure.
#213 of 263 Re: honda covering tires and control arms [scamper2]
Mar 16, 2009 (10:05 am)
We drive a Honda and a Cadillac; interesting mix I know. The Cadillac is the smaller CTS. We had the same thing on it and the dealer told me it was the suspension when the tires had 25,000 miles. I had the tires replaced and it solved the problem. He told me, on that particular car, that you had to rotate every 5,000 and align every 15,000. Nothing surprises me on the big three, but it definitely does on a Honda. I am almost sure that you are hearing tire wear and it should not be. I have an '05 Accord and an'06 Civic. As I said in an earlier post, I have had this on the Civic, but not the Accord.
#214 of 263 Re: [nsteevo]
Mar 16, 2009 (10:13 am)
I am on my way to the Honda dealer today with my son's '06 Civic. I am glad I read your post. As stated in an earlier post, he has had the alignment issue. On the way back from Florida on a 4 lane regular divided highway, his car went into a spin on wet pavement, spinning several times. He wound up in the median and was nearly killed. It was raining very hard and he was driving under 65 mph. There were four of them in the car with luggage. I am going to hit them with this. He has 70,000 miles and I am not sure they will do anything but I am going to press them.
Mar 16, 2009 (3:40 pm)
My newer tires are wearing perfectly but I'm just at 20k today as a matter of fact. I don't put the mileage that most put on their cars since I live within 10 miles from work up just one stretch of city 6 way road. It's strictly a commuter car since my wife and 2 girls have their own cars and only my son uses it on breaks home from college. Still love the car and hope to keep it for many years.
The partial refund I did get from Honda I was happy with even though I think they should've compensated me for all four tires. A difference of opinion but I was happy for something. I do keep an eye on the tires and so far...perfect.