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Re: Civic OEM tire replacement [ernest1934] by ernest1934
Jan 15, 2008 (3:05 pm)
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Replying to: ernest1934 (Jan 03, 2008 1:07 pm)

This information is ONLY for those that believe what I said is credible and are interested in keeping an open mind and seeking information from someone else that may possibly improve their Civic performance.
 
I have been trying to obtain the numerical rolling resistance for the original and replacement tires without success.
However, I just talked to the Honda repair shop and they stated that they have had problems with the 06 Civic Hybrids that came with the same original tires as our non-hybrid EX when the original tires were replaced. The replacement tires have reduced the mileage 4-6 mpg. The reason, as I understood him, had something to do with the construction of the Bridgestone Turanza EL-400 and that the other tires could not compare.
I certainly believe him, especially as that came from a Honda man.
 
Since I believe I have verified that the loss of mpg as stated is due to the replacement tires, I will not respond further.
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36 MPG's by sandman46
Jan 16, 2008 (1:06 pm)
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This is the highest mileage I've gotten on the highway with the oem Goodyear RS-A tires so I'm highly doubtful when I hear mileage figures in the mid 40's for non hybrid Civics. I guess it could be acheivable on flat terrain going 65 mph with the cruise on and no a/c but I would suspect 39 would be a more reasonable mpg amount.
But anything is possible I suspect...I'm just very skeptical.
 
The Sandman
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Re: Civic OEM tire replacement [ernest1934] by jet10000
Jan 16, 2008 (2:52 pm)
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Replying to: ernest1934 (Jan 03, 2008 1:07 pm)

I put Yokohama AVID TRZ as replacements and consistently get highway mileage of 36-40 mpg driving in all the same places.
I even added about 10% air pressure (32 to 35psi) with no recognizable benefit.
Have others had these problems? What were your actions?

 
You will probably get a better response if you post your question in the
 
Honda Civic Real World MPG forum.
 
That's where the gas mileage experts hang out.
 
Also if you review the forum called:
 
Honda Civic Hybrid MPG-Real World Numbers
 
You will see that the tires that comes standard with the Hybrid can have a big effect on gas mileage. When the standard tires were changed to other tires of the same size, the gas mileage would decrease significantly.
 
So claims made by others in response to your post, that tires can not affect the gas mileage that much, are not true.
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Apples and oranges by targettuning
Jan 17, 2008 (4:45 am)
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The original poster who complained about a major loss in fuel economy when changing out the original tires DOES NOT have a Civic hybrid. The hybrid DOES come with very low rolling resistance tires and replacing them when worn with "standard" tires and not the specified original low rolling resistance tires will probably result in decreased fuel economy to some degree since the hybrid tire is designed and specified for use with this car. However, replacing the "standard" Bridgestone EL-400 on any other Civic( EX-LX-DX sedan or coupe) with another brand of equal size will NOT result in major fuel economy loss. In spite of what a Honda employee said (and this guy will readily belive some Honda flack who probably doesn't know any more than you or I) I still don't believe tires can be responsible for the loss as noted...sorry!!!
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Apples and oranges..further thoughts by targettuning
Jan 17, 2008 (6:44 am)
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I believe a hybrid car that comes with special low rolling resistance tires as part of the hybrid "package" can probably loose a certain amount of fuel economy if those tires are replaced with normal every day tires due to an increase in rolling resistance. However, a non-hybrid car cannot loose the massive amount of MPG as noted simply because of a tire change to another major brand in the right size. There is no large difference between Goodyear and Bridgestone or Michelin and Dunlop with regard to rolling resistance or it isn't large enough to account for that drop. Hell, if one could gain 8 mpg by changing to a specific brand tire do you think it would be a secret? That company couldn't make enough tires....
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Re: Apples and oranges [targettuning] by targettuning
Jan 23, 2008 (8:21 am)
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Replying to: targettuning (Jan 17, 2008 4:45 am)

This line of debate seems to have died since the original poster doesn't want to hear how wrong his line of thought about different tire brands rolling resistance and the effect on fuel economy is. According to him the original Bridgestone EL-400's were replaced with Yokohama Avid's resulting in a major (8 mpg or more) fuel economy loss. I maintained this was impossible simply due to a tire brand change and this insensed him to the point he no longer replies thinking (correctly) I don't believe in the whole premise. I have since found tire test information that includes comparitive rolling resistances between many brands (Consumer Reports Nov. 2006 issue). According to that test the Bridgestones he praised as delivering superior fuel economy has only "fair" rolling resistance whereas the Yokohama Avids he said has caused massive fuel economy losses (as compared to the original Bridgestones) has "good" rolling resistance. So, if you believe what he said the poorer rated tires gave much better fuel economy than the better rated tires. The "logic" he used is faulty. Go figure??? In any case...if you are still out there...I don't believe what you stated. Tire brands cannot account for the huge differences you report. Case closed as far as I am concerned.
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'04 Accord LX 15" steel wheels fit '06 Civic EX? by kevman2
Jan 26, 2008 (2:09 pm)
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Found a set of '04 Accord LX wheels, lugnuts, and hubcaps, would be a great find as snow wheels for my '06 EX Civic - - the bolt pattern is the same, but not sure if offset is OK or if they will clear my disc brake calipers?? It appears that these wheels are different than the '06 DX steel wheels, which are also 15"..... I'm guessing that there could be an issue with brake caliper clearance but can't seem to find any info anywhere to tell me one way or the other. I'd go try them on, but I live a few miles from where they are for sale (private party)....hate to drive 50 miles for nothing.
 
thanks!
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TSB For Rear GEOMETRY - Tire Wear by tallpinesman
Feb 25, 2008 (9:54 am)
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Just got a call from Honda today to inform me that my two rear tires will not be covered due to the TBS recently published on the rear geometry of my 07 civic. Seems as though the rear tires get messed up, cupped, etc. and they will only give an adjustment on cars with less the 25K...nevermind that the problem exists and ruins the tires before that magic mile marker is hit,,,,,,I have seen posts that someone over 25k had their tires replaced at no charge. Anyone with a similar problem? Check your rear tires for wear and see the dealer for the "Uneven or Rapid Rear Tire Wear" service bulletin #08-001......service is to replace rear upper control arms, flange bolts, replace the rear tires ( in my case at my cost) and do a four wheel alignment.
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Re: TSB For Rear GEOMETRY - Tire Wear [tallpinesman] by drmbb
Feb 25, 2008 (4:47 pm)
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Replying to: tallpinesman (Feb 25, 2008 9:54 am)

Do you know a site to read the actual TSB? I looked at www.nhtsa.dot.gov and the only 8th generation Honda Civic TSB they have for suspension is only for the front suspension.
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Re: TSB For Rear GEOMETRY - Tire Wear [drmbb] by tallpinesman
Feb 25, 2008 (7:26 pm)
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Replying to: drmbb (Feb 25, 2008 4:47 pm)

Here is a link to the site....scroll down to see the scan posted by a member. This is a real mess looking at other posts on the web.....tons of worn tires and people who paid for alignments that did not work on 06 and 07 civics.
 
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2225229

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