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Re: Any Quality Tires Available for '02 EX? No Michelin, Goodyear... [ship [drmbb] by shipo
Dec 17, 2007 (11:08 am)
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Replying to: drmbb (Dec 17, 2007 9:25 am)

Well, we're going to have to differ on this issue. I don't consider 4500 rpms all that high given the speed. While I don't remember engine speed of my 530i from when I was touring Europe in it, I'm thinking it was about 4500 as well, and at a buck-thirty plus, all was calm and sedate inside the car. At one point in Germany I took an OBC based mileage reading with the CC set at 120 (a speed that the prevailing traffic allowed uninterrupted for nearly 40 miles), and the result was 24 mpg. Not too shabby.
Maybe I'm way off base here, but I believe that the R18 engine in the DX, LX, and EX models and the K20 engine in the Si will happily turn 4500 all day long and still return reasonable fuel economy at speed. The fact is that 120 really isn't all that fast.
 
As for how all of this relates to tires, I believe that even here in the U.S., we drivers are obligated by law to shoe our cars with tires that at least meet the maximum governed speed of our cars. Case in point, back in the 1990s, Mercedes-Benz was suffering through a spate of complaints about the tires used on their (then) new S-Class models. Folks by the thousands (I know because I wrote the database and client side software to track the issue) were calling to complain about poor traction, rough riding and flat spotting in cold weather, and as the tire technology of the day didn't allow for manufacturing all-season tires capable of the 155 mph top speed of that car. In response, Mercedes-Benz of North America offered their customers two choices:
 
1) Live with it
2) Have "H" rated all season tires fitted to the can AND have the ECU reprogrammed so that the top governed speed was only 128 mph (something they would have been forced to do by law if they fitted lower speed tires)
 
IIRC, well over half of the folks who voiced a complaint about the tires refused to have their cars reprogrammed and in the end decided to live with the factory rubber.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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I need Winter Tires by leash_e
Dec 19, 2007 (5:51 pm)
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Hey,
I'm buying a 2001 Honda Civic Si Coupe and I need to buy winter tires. Does anyone have any suggestions? And what size does the Si take?
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civic suspension 2007 problems by pooch195o
Dec 28, 2007 (6:48 am)
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i also began hearing "the noise" at 14,000 miles. first was told that the tires were the cause. now am finding it is a short rear suspension arm. I am waiting two months for honda to manufacture the part - why?- meanwhile the dealership has adjusted the too short arm so it will not make noise and putting new tires, will pick up my car today. I hope this is safe, they said it was I would like to know why the wrong part was put on in the first place. I also am experiencing the clunk sound at times when moderately applying the brakes. what do you guys think - I thought about lemon law and heard about a possible class action suit? let me know please.
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reimbursement by mpan20
Dec 28, 2007 (9:56 am)
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So now that i've gone and sold the car Honda decides if to come out with a fix for this problem. I wonder if I'm going to get my money back that I spent replacing tires for Honda's screw up. Does anyone know of a class action suit?
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chains by kork13
Dec 28, 2007 (11:20 am)
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Random question, i'm not really very familiar with winter conditions, as I grew up OCONUS in the tropics... When does it normally become necessary to use chains on your car? I live in central Colorado, around Colorado Springs, and we often get some fairly significant amounts of snow. I'm just not sure if it would be reasonably necessary for me to get some chains for my car or not. I'm in the '07 Civic Si. Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: chains [kork13] by jet10000
Dec 30, 2007 (8:23 pm)
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Replying to: kork13 (Dec 28, 2007 11:20 am)

I live in central Colorado, around Colorado Springs, and we often get some fairly significant amounts of snow. I'm just not sure if it would be reasonably necessary for me to get some chains for my car or not. I'm in the '07 Civic Si.
 
I would check with your neighbors to see if they find chains helpful, and how quickly they clear the roads in your area. My friend lives outside of C. Springs, and he said last winter, the snow would get so deep he wouldn't even leave the house that day until the roads are cleared. Since you have a low clearance vehicle as opposed to an SUV, your movement could be limited by that. There's also been some posts on these boards regarding Civic front bumpers being damaged by deep snow.
 
As for the chains, you can get a simple set for around $30. If it seems to go long periods of time there where you don't see any street pavement, I think it would be worth it. You'll certainly get much better traction and definitely worth it if you have any inclines you need to climb.
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Civic OEM tire replacement by ernest1934
Jan 03, 2008 (1:07 pm)
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We purchased a 2006 Civic EX new and recently replaced the tires at 55,000 miles.
Our mileage on the highway has ALWAYS been 44-48MPG - we set the cruise at 5 mph below the limit and rarely have to change speeds -driving in Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Georgia, North Carolina (flatlands) & Florida.
I put Yokohama AVID TRZ as replacements and consistently get highway mileage of 36-40 mpg driving in all the same places.
I even added about 10% air pressure (32 to 35psi) with no recognizable benefit.
Have others had these problems? What were your actions?
Thanks,
Ernest1934
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Re: Civic OEM tire replacement [ernest1934] by targettuning
Jan 04, 2008 (5:40 am)
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Replying to: ernest1934 (Jan 03, 2008 1:07 pm)

A couple of observations that are strictly my opinion so don't take it wrong. We also own a 2006 EX auto sedan purchased new (currently has about 13K miles showing) and have NEVER...repeat NEVER approached 44mpg let alone 48. I drive conservatively setting the cruise 70-71 mph where the limit is 65 and never exceed it (OK never say never..rarely then) but you realize those claims are squarely within hybrid territory and unless the speed limit you are 5 mph under is 55 mph the I have trouble believing your claim (from very first hand experience). That said, tires should not cause any appreciable fuel economy loss. Notice I said appreciable especially if they are direct replacements in size. Certainly not what you claim. In fact the "after" fuel economy sounds a whole lot more like what we get on the highway (the middle 30's), You may just now be calculating the "normal" fuel economy for this car after somehow inflating it for 55K miles. Don't ask me how that is even possible but that is what it seems like to me.
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Re: Civic OEM tire replacement [targettuning] by ernest1934
Jan 04, 2008 (6:59 am)
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Replying to: targettuning (Jan 04, 2008 5:40 am)

I have calculated the mileage on every tank of gas since the car was brand new, and simple division has never been a challenge to me for the last 60 years at least.
 
Rather than to simply dispute someone's credibility, you might consider a little time to study the rolling resistance on various tires and, additionally, the effects on gas mileage by varying your speed on the highway every time you slow down or accelerate the car to pass another. The math is fairly simple. You can make more friends that way.
 
I asked a question if others with Civics had experienced any similar results to mine. I can apparently assume that you have not.

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