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Re: Any Quality Tires Available for '02 EX? No Michelin, Goodyear... [ship by mishaa
Dec 16, 2007 (6:02 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Dec 15, 2007 10:41 pm)

I would second shipo on Yokohama. It is an excellent tire, and it costs about two times less than Michelin. I got Michelin stock on my 03 Si, and was happy to replace them with Yoko this fall. My personal opinion is that Yokohama is better. I've been using them for seven years already, on two cars.
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Re: Any Quality Tires Available for '02 EX? No Michelin, Goodyear... [ship by mixwhit
Dec 16, 2007 (7:19 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Dec 15, 2007 10:41 pm)

Thanks for the info. I hadn't caught the speed rating difference.
 
I see the T rated ComforTread is good for 118 mph, while H is 130 mph. Given I'll never go faster than 85 or so in my EX, does this difference matter? I guess perhaps an H-rated tire is just higher quality than a T?
 
Thanks for the recommendations. I'll look into the Michelins and Yokohamas.
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Re: Any Quality Tires Available for '02 EX? No Michelin, Goodyear... [ship by jet10000
Dec 16, 2007 (8:49 pm)
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Replying to: mixwhit (Dec 16, 2007 7:19 pm)

Go to discounttire.com. If you click search by size, they have 12 tires that will fit your car. Three Mich, a Goodyear and a Yoko amongst others. The speed ratings aren't an H but I wouldn't let that stop me if I liked the cars. I doubt I'd ever get over 110 myself.
 
Even if you don't buy there at least you can read some reviews on the various tires.
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Re: Any Quality Tires Available for '02 EX? No Michelin, Goodyear... [ship by drmbb
Dec 17, 2007 (7:31 am)
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Replying to: mixwhit (Dec 16, 2007 7:19 pm)

H is not necessarily a higher quality than a T rated tire. It's just that the H rated tire is tested to withstand higher sustained cruising speed (at load and proper inflation) without overheating and failing from excessive stress and heat. The whole speed rating guide came from European countries with no speed limits, so it was necessary to rate tires as appropriate for a given sustained speed.
 
Given that a T rated tires is rated for sustained speeds of 118mph, I would have no worries about putting it on my 2007 Civic (my normal interstate cruising speed is 70mph). Plus, I believe that the civic has a speed governor that limits it's top speed to 125mph (according to Car and Driver magazine anyway), and what kind of nut is going to cruise at insane high engine rpms (which you'd need to be to sustain that kind of speed).
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Re: Any Quality Tires Available for '02 EX? No Michelin, Goodyear... [ship [drmbb] by shipo
Dec 17, 2007 (8:47 am)
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Replying to: drmbb (Dec 17, 2007 7:31 am)

A couple of points:
 
 - When comparing two otherwise identical tires (i.e. same make, model and size), one with a "T" rating and one with an "H" rating, the car with the "H" tires will generally handle better while the one with the "T" rating will generally have a softer and more compliant ride.
 
 - I've spent a lot of time in Europe, and have seen Hondas tooling along at an easy buck-thirty, and doing so all day long. FWIW, there is nothing insanely high about the RPMS that these cars are turning to achieve that kind of speed.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Any Quality Tires Available for '02 EX? No Michelin, Goodyear... [ship by drmbb
Dec 17, 2007 (9:25 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Dec 17, 2007 8:47 am)

Don't know about European models, but my US-made Civic EX auto sedan would be pulling well over 4500 rpm to cruise at 120+mph. I consider that insanely high rpm's for sustained cruising - in a car with a redline of 6800 rpm, cruising at two thirds or more of redline is a ridiculous thing to do, IMO.
 
P.S. for one thing, don't all the European civics come with the smart-shift 6-speed manual-auto trans., and it's geared differently then even the Si 6-speed in the US? (except for the hybrid, which uses a CVT on both sides of the pond).
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Re: Any Quality Tires Available for '02 EX? No Michelin, Goodyear... [ship [drmbb] by shipo
Dec 17, 2007 (11:08 am)
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Replying to: drmbb (Dec 17, 2007 9:25 am)

Well, we're going to have to differ on this issue. I don't consider 4500 rpms all that high given the speed. While I don't remember engine speed of my 530i from when I was touring Europe in it, I'm thinking it was about 4500 as well, and at a buck-thirty plus, all was calm and sedate inside the car. At one point in Germany I took an OBC based mileage reading with the CC set at 120 (a speed that the prevailing traffic allowed uninterrupted for nearly 40 miles), and the result was 24 mpg. Not too shabby.
Maybe I'm way off base here, but I believe that the R18 engine in the DX, LX, and EX models and the K20 engine in the Si will happily turn 4500 all day long and still return reasonable fuel economy at speed. The fact is that 120 really isn't all that fast.
 
As for how all of this relates to tires, I believe that even here in the U.S., we drivers are obligated by law to shoe our cars with tires that at least meet the maximum governed speed of our cars. Case in point, back in the 1990s, Mercedes-Benz was suffering through a spate of complaints about the tires used on their (then) new S-Class models. Folks by the thousands (I know because I wrote the database and client side software to track the issue) were calling to complain about poor traction, rough riding and flat spotting in cold weather, and as the tire technology of the day didn't allow for manufacturing all-season tires capable of the 155 mph top speed of that car. In response, Mercedes-Benz of North America offered their customers two choices:
 
1) Live with it
2) Have "H" rated all season tires fitted to the can AND have the ECU reprogrammed so that the top governed speed was only 128 mph (something they would have been forced to do by law if they fitted lower speed tires)
 
IIRC, well over half of the folks who voiced a complaint about the tires refused to have their cars reprogrammed and in the end decided to live with the factory rubber.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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I need Winter Tires by leash_e
Dec 19, 2007 (5:51 pm)
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Hey,
I'm buying a 2001 Honda Civic Si Coupe and I need to buy winter tires. Does anyone have any suggestions? And what size does the Si take?
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civic suspension 2007 problems by pooch195o
Dec 28, 2007 (6:48 am)
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i also began hearing "the noise" at 14,000 miles. first was told that the tires were the cause. now am finding it is a short rear suspension arm. I am waiting two months for honda to manufacture the part - why?- meanwhile the dealership has adjusted the too short arm so it will not make noise and putting new tires, will pick up my car today. I hope this is safe, they said it was I would like to know why the wrong part was put on in the first place. I also am experiencing the clunk sound at times when moderately applying the brakes. what do you guys think - I thought about lemon law and heard about a possible class action suit? let me know please.

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