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#91 of 165 Re: air "cleaner element" - AKA filter ????? [perlster] by perlster Dec 10, 2007 (7:21 am)
Replying to: perlster (Dec 01, 2007 9:29 am) I don't have a shop manual - c'mon, somebody must know ...where can I find instructions to change it?
#92 of 165 Re: 05 Civic LX [colloquor] by shipo Dec 10, 2007 (7:29 am)
Replying to: colloquor (Dec 10, 2007 7:19 am) While you may believe that 3,000 mile OCIs are appropriate, Used Oil Analysis (UOA) proves that if high quality oil is used (especially Group IV synthetics), such a short OCI is a simple waste of money and won't allow your engine to operate even one mile more than if you had followed the manufacturer's recommendation (or even gone well beyond them in the case of using synthetic oil).   Best Regards, Shipo
#93 of 165 Re: 05 Civic LX [colloquor] by ruking1 Dec 10, 2007 (8:37 am)
Replying to: colloquor (Dec 10, 2007 7:19 am) Can't say I do not remember the whole macro and of course micor situations that triggered that set of attitudes which pull one to change oil at 3,000 miles and in some cases LESS!! That was the 1950's 60's, 70's. to mid 80's.   I have at least 3 vehicles that used as a min 15,000 mile intervals with 250,000, 146,000, 72,000 miles. Two of these engines required value adjustments so the wear and absolute cleaniness has been verified by dealer mechanics. I run another (non Honda) on (after the dismal warranty period) on 20,000 to 25,000 mile OCI's and again the wear and cleaniness was verified at 100,000 miles by the guru doing the timing belt and water pump interval and inspection of a sometimes problematic (fleetwide) intake and EGR, all pronounced good to go! In fact he looked at me quizzically and pointed to the all critical camshaft lobes and saw original tool markings and had that look..."so what is the big deal?" I run the Honda on 20,000 mile intervals, changing the filter at the oem recommendation of 20,000 miles. Again it gets 38-42 mpg in a daily grueling commute, the internals are totally clean. My target for this vehicle is a min of 4 timing belt changes (105,000 miles) or a min of 450,000 miles.
#94 of 165 Re: 05 Civic LX [colloquor] by blufz1 Dec 10, 2007 (11:40 am)
Replying to: colloquor (Dec 10, 2007 7:19 am) I'm not 10k brave,but thanks to Shipo and Ruking,I'm up to 6k. Use only Mobil 1 synthetic. If you top up your own oil and change your own air filter, you are in better touch with your engine.
#95 of 165 Re: 05 Civic LX [colloquor] by mishaa Dec 16, 2007 (6:52 pm)
Replying to: colloquor (Dec 10, 2007 7:19 am) If you don't use crap oil, you don't get sludge. Use good oil (not necessarily synthetic) and change it according to when your manual says, and everything will be fine.   The guys who designed your car put quite a bit of time and money into making sure you don't spend more than you have on maintenance, and they know better when oil needs change... Replies to this message: dgl318 (Dec 17, 2007 10:36 am)
#96 of 165 Re: 05 Civic LX [mishaa] by dgl318 Dec 17, 2007 (10:36 am)
Replying to: mishaa (Dec 16, 2007 6:52 pm) Right on!!..I couldn't agree more. The oil companies, the car manufacturers, etc. have probably been brain-washing us for years. We have been lead to believe for ever that oil should be changed every 3000 miles or 3 months. So, when somebody thinks outside the box and does some real scientific investigation into it, the naysayers jump all over it.... Change really should not be such a fearful thing..
#97 of 165 what kind of motor oil to use in a 08 civic? by sniders16 Dec 30, 2007 (8:20 am)
I recall the dealer saying not to use synthetics. I was thinking about going to the deal to get it changed. I really want to take good care of this car, It is my first. The manual did not mention anything. I am at about 6,500 miles and the dash final told me to change it. I do almost all highway driving. So far I love this car. I get almost 300 miles between fill ups.   thanks for the advice. Replies to this message: drmbb (Dec 30, 2007 1:09 pm) jet10000 (Jan 03, 2008 7:29 pm)
#98 of 165 Re: what kind of motor oil to use in a 08 civic? [sniders16] by drmbb Dec 30, 2007 (1:09 pm)
Replying to: sniders16 (Dec 30, 2007 8:20 am) Most major name brand synthetic oils meet or exceed Honda's specifications. I just had my first change on my 2007 EX/AT sedan and told the dealer I wanter synthetic. They said no problem, they use Mobile 1 in all their Honda models, if an owner requests it, and it exceeds all Honda manufacturer requirements.   They did mention that the oil life indicator in the civic, which calculates the oil life using a formula, is not specifically calibrated for synthetic oils, which often have a higher mileage figure for oil changes. The civic owners manual, and my dealer, said they still recommend using the oil minder to guide you when to change the oil, even though Mobile's recommendations may be different from what the oil minder ends up recommending.
#99 of 165 oci by hangaralf1 Dec 30, 2007 (8:08 pm)
here is my two bits - i don't feel that regular oil holds up over about 3 - 4000 miles. i don't feel that an oil filter can handle 10,000 miles (even if synthetic oil can - which i doubt) so...   i change oil every 5000 miles with synthetic and the filter - both of which can handle 5000 miles - everyone is happy. the maintenance minder is happy (if you reset it) - and therefore honda is happy. the engine is happy. i don't have to do mathematical gymnastics to remember to change the oil every 3000 miles - i'm happy.   btw - i change the oil myself so i know absolutely what is going in and i can afford to put in synthetic that way.   anybody know if mobil one or castrol syntec is better?   also - nothing personal - but for the guy who wants to know where the airbox is to change the air filter - if you can't figure this out by just looking, you don't belong under the hood. (i assume you mean engine intake air filter - not cabin air filter - that's a different can of worms) Replies to this message: shipo (Dec 30, 2007 9:11 pm)
#100 of 165 Re: oci [hangaralf1] by shipo Dec 30, 2007 (9:11 pm)
Replying to: hangaralf1 (Dec 30, 2007 8:08 pm) "here is my two bits - i don't feel that regular oil holds up over about 3 - 4000 miles. i don't feel that an oil filter can handle 10,000 miles (even if synthetic oil can - which i doubt) so..."   Fortunately for the rest of us, we don't have to be restraned by your doubts. I rely on scientific evidence (i.e. UOAs) to determine what kind of mileage an oil and filter can or cannot handle as far as mileage, and there is absolutely zero evidence to suggest that changing your oil before 10,000 miles will make your engine last even one mile further than if you went 10,000 or maybe even 15,000 miles (assuming the UOAs come back showing that kind of mileage is doable).   "i change oil every 5000 miles with synthetic and the filter - both of which can handle 5000 miles - everyone is happy. the maintenance minder is happy (if you reset it) - and therefore honda is happy. the engine is happy. i don't have to do mathematical gymnastics to remember to change the oil every 3000 miles - i'm happy."   Scientific Used Oil Analysis proves quite convincingly that 5,000 mile oil changes with synthetic oil are an absolute waste of time, money, and resources.   "anybody know if mobil one or castrol syntec is better?"   For your application? There's no difference. In fact, with the OCI that you're using, you'll do just as well by using a conventional oil like Havoline or any Honda/Ford approved 5W-20.   Best Regards, Shipo

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