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Jun 17, 2012 (4:52 pm)
Do you guys have any problems with your outlander, I am planning to buy a 2012 2.4L DOHC model.
I looked under the hood and was pleased to find everything very easy to access and work on, I can name everything under the hood unlike some of the newer cars.
But what I want to know is the reliability in general, my pass experience is that mitsubishi has fairly good reliability in general.
#356 of 438 Re: Reliable? [fastgst]
Jun 18, 2012 (1:25 am)
Judging by postings on these forum's, this gen Outlanders seem to be very reliable. My '07 LS V6 has had no issues except tires and brakes in 57 K
#358 of 438 Re: Reliable? [fastgst]
Jun 18, 2012 (6:31 am)
I have a 2010 2.4L ES all wheel drive, 11,000 miles with no problems.
Keep in mind that Mitsubishi have a dual severity maintenance schedule and expect that their frequency recommendations will be followed in order to protect the 10year/100k mile powertrain warranty.
Because the Mitsubishi 4B1 aluminum engine with MIVEC continuously variable valve timing need a guaranteed clean oil supply the severe schedule (which applies to all Canadian users) calls for oil and filter change every 3750 miles or 3months, whichever occurs first. Also the motor should be warmed up at every start.
The 2.4L has adequate power and the FWD/AWD/AWDLock control is a great feature for all weather driving conditions.
Some have criticized the use of a CVT drive but I have found it to be a seemless transmission unit which actually enhances acceleration.
Hope this helps.
#359 of 438 Re: Reliable? [jonox]
Jun 18, 2012 (2:09 pm)
Do you know the specs of the non-severe schdule for 2.4L?
I do not neglict my cars but sometimes I only get to drive a car 5000 miles a year and I do not want to dump out the oil at 3 month or 1250 miles.
I have NEVER followed the duration recommendation and I use synthetic oil, and the car is garaged not exposed to moisture or large temperature changes.
Also does anyone know:
2.4L model has a 2WD/4WD/Lock knob
V6 has the S-AWC with tarmac/snow/lock knob.
Does that mean the 2.4L model will be running true 2WD in that first setting and basically should have gas mileage like the FWD model except it is carrying 160lbs of extra weight?
when I use the 4WD mode does that mean it will be more like a subaru full time AWD?
The S-AWC system knob seems to imply AWD all the time.
#360 of 438 Re: Reliable? [fastgst]
Jun 18, 2012 (5:07 pm)
The "Regular" Schedule is double the "Severe" so oil and filter change is every 6 months or 7,500 miles. After 2011 I believe Mitsu have changed to synthetic oil so these intervals may have increased somewhat.
"Severe" applies if the vehicle is frequently driven in one or more of the following road conditions:
50% of driving in heavy city traffic in hot weather above 90 degrees F,
Extensive idling and/or low speed operation (stop and go traffic),
Repeated short trips with engine not fully warmed up, especially in freezing temps,
Sandy, dusty, rough, muddy or salt spread roads,
Vehicle is used for towing, police, taxi or commercial operation,
Driving in day or night temperatures below freezing.
The "Severe" frequency bothered me at first but having read the horror stories with the 2.4L Equinox which has a similar GM "knock off" engine I'm happy to comply. Also you may be able to negotiate free oil changes as part of the deal.
Concerning the 2WD/4WD controls, the driver can change the drive mode at any time. The 2WD setting drives the front wheels only and is more efficient on gas. The 4WD Auto setting transfers up to 40% torque to the rear wheels under full throttle reducing to 25% over 40 MPH and 15% when cruising. For driving in more challenging conditions 4WD Lock mode can be selected with up to 60% of available torque being sent to the rear wheels, useful for fast starts and better control on snow or loose surfaces.
#361 of 438 Re: Reliable? [jonox]
Jun 19, 2012 (4:18 am)
I have a 2010 GT with AWC & the V6, sun & sound, navi, & towing package. I live in the Chicago area and follow the regular service schedule (6 months/7500 mile for oil changes, etc.). I don't drive that many miles, though, so my oil changes have been time-based so far. With 30 months of ownership I'm almost at 24K miles.
Last week I did the 2 year/30K service (at 2.5 years/23K miles). One warranty item did surface during the work: the AC compressor was leaking & was replaced free of charge. I hadn't noticed as it was still keepign up with the 90 degree tempts we've been seeing. When they first came out, some 2010 Outlanders had weak/bad AC and it was traced to a bad batch from Mitsu's supplier. There are posts in the 2010 Outlander thread about this if you care to read them. Mine might have been a part of that but it just took longer to surface. Or it just started leaking. Doesn't much matter; it was fixed at no cost to me.
That's been the only repair I've had to make and I don't really count it since it was covered by warranty and was free.
Reliability was a factor in my original purchase. My last car was a '99 Galant LS V6 which had only a couple of repairs in my 10.5 years/152K miles of ownership. In my experience, Mitsu reliability is up there with the best. But then I do take care of my cars. I don't neglect maintenance and I don't leadfoot it from every stoplight (though I will once in a while).
Lifetime fuel economy with the V6 & AWC has been 21.2MPG using the recommended premium fuel. Premium costs more and you can use regular if you want, but while I didn't notice a power difference the fuel economy does drop by around 0.5 MPG. In the end using premium doesn't cost more per mile so I use it. And that MPG is through a couple of Chicagoland winters, summers with high AC usage, and includes the occasional hauling of 800+ pounds of stuff from the home improvement stores.
The AWC default, IIRC, to 90% front/10% rear in Tarmac road but can shift power to the rear as needed. Snow changes that bias to start at 70%30%. As noted you can change modes at any time or speed. For fast starts I use snow mode to avoid tripping the TCS; once moving at 40+ I'll revert to Tarmac. Once, with 5 passengers + luggage it stayed in 3rd all the way up to 85MPH going uphill on an onramp; it has plenty of power.
#362 of 438 Re: Reliable? [fushigi]
Jun 19, 2012 (1:52 pm)
Thanks for the heads up on the AC compressor, my 2 year service is due at the end of June so I'll have it checked out.
Because Mitsu Canada were adamant on the "Severe" schedule for Canadian drivers this will be my eighth oil and filter change, an average of about 1500 miles per fill however, with free O&F changes for life this is an easy decision. As mentioned in my previous post, GM have no end of problems with their similar 2.4L motor so better safe than sorry when it comes to oil condition.
#363 of 438 Re: Reliable? [jonox]
Jun 19, 2012 (6:39 pm)
So this is 2.4L a Japanese design but shared with GM? I was thinking it would be a durable engine that last at least 200k miles.
But I havn't heard of anyone with problem with the outlander engines!
Is the V6 a better designed engine?
#364 of 438 Re: Reliable? [fastgst]
Jun 20, 2012 (5:20 am)
The four cylinder MIVEC engine was developed jointly by Mitsubishi, DaimlerChrysler and Hyundai as a of the results of their "World Engine" project. The cylinder block and other basic structural parts were jointly developed by the three companies but the intake and exhaust manifolds, cylinder head's intake and exhaust ports plus other elements related to tuning were independently developed by Mitsu.
Production of the new engine began in 2005 at a newly installed state of the art production line at Mitsu's power train plant at Shiga, Japan.
This engine was the first to have the continuously variable valve timing "Mitubishi Innovative Valve timing Electronic Control system (MIVEC) applied to both inlet and exhaust valves.
Can't comment on the V6.