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#51 of 203 2002 axiom ABS wires cut. by daud1 Jul 03, 2008 (7:24 am)
hi, i have a 02 axiom and i just found that my ABS wires are chewed up. Is there anyway i can reattach them? the wires are about an inch short. the dealer wants 350.00 for a replacement. any help is appreciated. thanks. Replies to this message: bertbcfm (Jul 03, 2008 1:24 pm) daud1 (Jul 05, 2008 5:43 pm) bertbcfm (Aug 04, 2008 6:09 am)
#52 of 203 Re: 2002 axiom ABS wires cut. [daud1] by bertbcfm Jul 03, 2008 (1:24 pm)
Replying to: daud1 (Jul 03, 2008 7:24 am) Where are the wires cut? There are several hall effect sensors on the car. At least one each at each wheel.   Bert Replies to this message: daud1 (Jul 05, 2008 5:43 pm) bertbcfm (Aug 04, 2008 6:09 am)
#53 of 203 Re: Noise in rearend..maybe trans [seanalan] by slickwilliedj Jul 05, 2008 (8:18 am)
Replying to: seanalan (Nov 17, 2007 4:12 pm) this is as a result of the rear propeller shaft needing to be serviced. This propeller shaft is filled with grease and when it the grease becomes worn or disapates from use u get play which is what your feeling when u come to a stop and the truck settles or when u accelerate from a stop... My mom owns a 02 and we have this serviced about every 15 to 20k..... ck your owners manual under maintanence and u will find this item listed.... usually costs about $90.00
#54 of 203 Re: 2002 axiom ABS wires cut. [bertbcfm] by daud1 Jul 05, 2008 (5:43 pm)
Replying to: bertbcfm (Jul 03, 2008 1:24 pm) the wires are cut closest to the actuator itself . thanks. Replies to this message: bertbcfm (Aug 04, 2008 6:09 am)
#55 of 203 Re: Save Big - Replace Axiom Active Suspension [bertbcfm] by walk_the_walk2 Jul 31, 2008 (7:28 am)
Replying to: bertbcfm (Jun 12, 2008 12:17 pm) Bert: Thank you for this info, I was just researching this myself for my 02 Axiom 2WD, as I have hated the ride since the first time I bought it, and sure don't want to buy the OEM shocks again.   Can you be more specific about the model number for the KYB rear shocks? This would be a great help to me! I think you mentioned contacting KYB directly, which I could also do, but it would be a great help to know the exact model number you used. Also, did you install them yourself, and how difficult was it if you did, or did you get a local shop to do it for you? Last, but not least, what did you do with the old electronic sensor modules? Did you bag and seal them and just leave them or did you remove them? What worked for you?   Thanks again for the info. Awaiting your reply.... Replies to this message: bertbcfm (Aug 04, 2008 6:04 am) walk_the_walk2 (Aug 04, 2008 6:39 am)
#56 of 203 Re: Save Big - Replace Axiom Active Suspension [walk_the_walk2] by bertbcfm Aug 04, 2008 (6:04 am)
Replying to: walk_the_walk2 (Jul 31, 2008 7:28 am) I have looked everywhere and cannot find the shock information. What I did was to remove the shock and measure it. The rears have a large electric valve on top and this adds about 2-1/2 to 3 inches to the shock height. The fronts have a much smaller valve. You need to replace it with a shock that has the same height and extended throw. I went on line and got some numbers for tech help from Monroe, KYB and others and talked to them all. I'm pretty sure it was KYB that had the shock I needed for the rears.   Removing the shocks can be difficult. I just cut through the top of the valve front and rear. Also the sleve that goes over the bottom bolt and through the rubber grommet will probably be stuck to the bolt and you can't remove the bolt. I carefully torched off the shock, removed the rubber and again carefully torched through the sleeve not heating or damaging the bottom bolt. I just left the valve wires and plugs hanging and of course the shock warning light came on but there isn't really any problem with this as there is no feedback loop to tell the car that there is anything wrong or different.   Regards Bert Replies to this message: walk_the_walk2 (Aug 04, 2008 6:39 am)
#57 of 203 Re: 2002 axiom ABS wires cut. [daud1] by bertbcfm Aug 04, 2008 (6:09 am)
Replying to: daud1 (Jul 05, 2008 5:43 pm) Sorry this took so long to reply. Iv'e been working out of town.   I don't see any reason why you cant just clean up the wires, slide a piece of shrink tube over them (individually), solder them back together shrink the tube and be on your way. Get the shring tube with the sealer inside as this makes a better seal on mission critical parts.   Regards Bert
#58 of 203 Re: Save Big - Replace Axiom Active Suspension [bertbcfm] by walk_the_walk2 Aug 04, 2008 (6:39 am)
Replying to: bertbcfm (Aug 04, 2008 6:04 am) Bert: I very much appreciate that you took the time to check on this. I only wish you could narrow down the exact make and model of the rear shock though, as I called KYB Tech Support last week and even read them your posting over the phone, and they could not find any specific info on file, and the best they could come up with is to use the models KYB GR2 344298 for the front (a different model number than you mentioned, but KYB apparently changed some model numbers recently?) and the KYB GR2 344299 for the rear, as can be seen on Shockwarehouse.com at this webpage:   http://tinyurl.com/6gde8y   But, what is suspect about the KYB Support answer is that these shocks are listed as fitting a 2002 Axiom WITHOUT the Active Electronic Suspension, and as you point out, there is a difference in the length of the rear shock that may be important.   In fact, there is no way to know, even on the front shocks, without taking one off and comparing it to a replacement unit in hand, and the restocking fee at Shockwarehouse.com is 30%, which is pretty punitive.   With a leaking front shock already, I am willing to risk the front ones and restocking, as the model number you listed does not compute with Tech Support.   This all leads me to this question: Was it a few years ago when you did your replacement?   Thanks, though, for trying. I hate to reinvent the wheel - some pun intended.
#59 of 203 Re: Save Big - Replace Axiom Active Suspension [bertbcfm] by fbosbill Oct 15, 2008 (2:55 pm)
Replying to: bertbcfm (Jun 12, 2008 12:17 pm) Bert- You are so right! My 2002 Axiom suspension is a POS. Are these replacement shocks plain R&R? I was informed they are fed by a hydraulics or are they electricly activated? My AXIOM is a 2002 with 43000 miles on it and all 4 shocks are shot. I called up Isuzu directly and they said "your out of warranty" anything else I can help you with"? I told the rep yes, please direct me to the closest Toyota Dealership! Your help is greatly appreciated. Replies to this message: bertbcfm (Oct 16, 2008 6:50 am)
#60 of 203 Re: Save Big - Replace Axiom Active Suspension [fbosbill] by bertbcfm Oct 16, 2008 (6:50 am)
Replying to: fbosbill (Oct 15, 2008 2:55 pm) The Axiom Shocks just have an electric valve on the top (which makes them longer/taller). This valve just opens to make the ride too soft or shuts/restricts to make the ride too stiff. I just cut off the wires and don't worry about to dash warning that says there is a problem with the Active ride system. It's just sensing that the wires have been disconnected. In an earlier post I gave the model and type for the front shock replacement. I found a shock that was longer and fit just right. The rears were harder to find and I just cannot recall what I used. However I would do it differently now. I'd Cut off the rear top shock brackets, drop them down on the frame and re-weld them on at about 2-1/2 to 3" lower. This isn't really too much trouble if you have a lift or a friend that has the tools. Once you lower the brackets I think you can just order the non-active shocks for the rear of an Axiom. To be exact measure the old shock without the valve and this would be the distance you would lower the upper shock mounts. In some ways this seems like a lot of trouble, but just look at the cost of the active shocks and the fix seems worth it. Remember that the old shocks can be difficult to remove. I used a recipricating saw to cut through the top of the shocks on the front and an air grinder chop wheel to cut through the top of the rears. Spend time soaking the bottom bolts in a release oil and be prepared to have trouble getting the bottom bolt out as it wnts to stick in the steel tube that goes through the bottom rubber washer/grommet.

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