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#332 of 381 Re: isuzu axim xs 2002 electronic suspension shock absorbers [dsimonia] by jedmustang

Aug 22, 2011 (4:12 pm)

Replying to: dsimonia (Aug 22, 2011 2:01 pm)
I concurr with walk_the_walk2 reply.
 
I bought the regular gas type (nonelectronic) shocks at a NAPA store and had them installed at a Mieneke shop. (got better parts price at NAPA). NAPA.com lists the correct shocks to use on their website.
 
Probably any shock, brake service shop should be able to do the work.
 
I am happy with the result.

#333 of 381 Re: isuzu axim xs 2002 electronic suspension shock absorbers [walk_the_walk2] by dsimonia

Aug 23, 2011 (11:18 am)

Replying to: walk_the_walk2 (Aug 22, 2011 2:40 pm)
it means the button SPORT - changing the riding mode won't work again if i replace shocks with usuall gas shocks? i found somewhere MONROE electrical shock absorbers, they were quite expensive, but if i buy them they will keep my SPORT button work again? whats the point, i have to buy regular gas shocks?

#334 of 381 Re: isuzu axim xs 2002 electronic suspension shock absorbers [dsimonia] by bertbcfm

Aug 23, 2011 (11:34 am)

Replying to: dsimonia (Aug 23, 2011 11:18 am)
No the sport button won't work again................
I doubt that the Monroe electrics will fit and why pay such a high price anyway? Besides if you could restore the original shocks you're just left with a crappy ride at a great expense.
 
Go back in the archives and look up the procedure to replace the Isuzu shocks with conventional shocks. You will save a lot of money and wind up with a better ride.
 
Regards
Bert

#335 of 381 Re: isuzu axim xs 2002 electronic suspension shock absorbers [dsimonia] by walk_the_walk2

Aug 23, 2011 (11:36 am)

Replying to: dsimonia (Aug 23, 2011 11:18 am)
Dsimonia: You are correct that if you replace the Isuzu OEM electronic ISC shocks (and actuators) with non-standard off-the-shelf SUV shocks, like Monroes or Biltsteins or whatever, the SPORT button will not work. All the SPORT button did was deactivate the little electonic bladder/actuator that sits on top of each shock. You can crawl under your vehicle and see the device for yourself. It's a black plastic device with a wiring harness attached to it that sits on top of the shock, easy to spot when you look at the front shocks in particular.
 
As for me, I am glad to be shed of mine. If you like that ISC feature, you will have to buy Isuzu shocks. I am not aware of any after-market substitutes.

#336 of 381 Re: isuzu axim xs 2002 electronic suspension shock absorbers [walk_the_walk2] by dsimonia

Aug 25, 2011 (1:06 pm)

Replying to: walk_the_walk2 (Aug 23, 2011 11:36 am)
ok and if i put usuall gas shocks there, i think the shock light will appear in panel..check suspension or something like that, or not?

#337 of 381 Re: isuzu axim xs 2002 electronic suspension shock absorbers [dsimonia] by walk_the_walk2

Aug 25, 2011 (2:30 pm)

Replying to: dsimonia (Aug 25, 2011 1:06 pm)
Dsimonia: Yes, that's sorta correct. But, (and this is detailed in my step-by-step instructions on how to do this from the prior posting), if you remove the 30 amp orange fuse from the fuse box under the hood (I think it's on the passenger side, if memory serves me and is labeled "Active Ride"), then the indicator light that looks like a shock aborber will NOT light up. This fuse only serves the ISC Active Ride subsystem anyway. Those of us that did this did not experience any negative side effects, either, unless you really like the bouncy-bouncy ride you had with the ISC system, that is. Instead, your Isuzu will have a normal ride like a regular SUV.

#338 of 381 Speedometer by ewp

Oct 02, 2011 (6:50 am)

I have a 2002 Axiom and had transmission problems that resulted in Isuzu changing my transmission at their expense. When I picked up the vehicle the speedometer did not work. That problem also created a check engine light. The heading indicator also did not work even tho the satellite indicator showed I had satellite reception. I quickly turned around and told the maintenance supervisor. He took the car back and after a couple more hours on the rack came back and said I needed a new "Speed Sensor" and for $485 he could fix that.
 
My question is, where exactly is that speed sensor, a picture would be nice, and what does that sensor look like? Thank you so much for and help. EWP Pappy

#339 of 381 Re: Speedometer [ewp] by walk_the_walk2

Oct 02, 2011 (11:13 am)

Replying to: ewp (Oct 02, 2011 6:50 am)
Wow. That's a thorny situation. For one thing, if all of these features worked beforehand, your mechanic has some explaining to do. To make matters worse, there are multiple speed sensors on the vehicle, depending on whether it has TOD/4WD or not, although it is clear from the Service Manual for the 2002 Axiom that the speedometer is tied to one of them and its failure will post a DTC trouble code.
 
To be clearer, there are speed sensors at the front wheels, a speed sensor on the rear end for the ABS system, and one on the tranny body itself, and possibly a few more if you have 4WD. All are shown and described in the Service Manual, which you can buy and download online.
 
Or, you can send me a private message to "inboxatbancca.org" (Only replace the "at" with the symbol), and I can send you the 3 pertinent pages, which show the sensors in question.
 
If I were you, I would take the vehicle to another mechanic and get another price right off, and also an opinon as to whether the dealer is responsible for possibly damaging your speed sensor when they repaired or replaced your tranny. What may be happening here, if it is the speed sensor on the tranny body itself, and I think this is the case, is that some Neanderthal shade-tree mechanic damaged your speed sensor during the tranny repair or replacement and now wants you to pony up hundreds to replace a sensor that probably costs $100 or less. I just hope they did not do additional damage beyond the speed sensor to other sensitive modules in your Axiom.
 
However, do your own due diligence on this. Since it's a 2002, there is the possibility that this is coincidental failure; however the sky high repair price leads me to believe otherwise. This is where finding another professional who can give you another estimate is crucial - otherwise you might want to repair it yourself. Looks like an easy swap out - not much harder than replacing an oxygen sensor really.
 
Last but not least, if this turns out to be the dealer, don't forget you can file a BBB complaint, a complaint with the attorney general of your state, or you can march them into small claims court for next to nothing. Just be sure to document your side first, if you opt to do this.

#340 of 381 Re: Speedometer [walk_the_walk2] by ewp

Oct 03, 2011 (8:18 am)

Replying to: walk_the_walk2 (Oct 02, 2011 11:13 am)
WOW Thank you so much Walk2 .
Mail is on the way.

#341 of 381 Re: Speedometer [ewp] by art2002

Oct 29, 2011 (7:17 am)

Replying to: ewp (Oct 02, 2011 6:50 am)
i also own a 2002 axiom with transmission problem that has been rebuilt approximately 40,000 miles ago (115,000 miles odo). currently the transmission is jerking when it is shifting to second gear particularly from cold start. i may have to have it rebuilt again. the problem you encountered with no speedometer reading, wrong display of heading, cruise control inop, is caused by a worn out driven speed gear-part number 8-97144-659-1. it's available at dealer part only, $43.22 plus tax. installation by dealer from our area is $135.00. i have a reliable, knowlegeable mechanic here in orlando who installed it for only $35.00. my mechanic also have replaced/installed the following - new a/c compressor & dryer-$700.00; water pump, timing built & timing tensioner-$400.00. the interior of my car is still immaculate so i'm keeping it for a while as long as i have my reliable mechanic servicing it. the shocks are also in need of replacement, so i'm replacing the original electronic absorbers with the standard monroe absorbers. answer to your question is http://www.myisuzuparts.com/2003/893/2/2-25/showparts.html

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