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Replying to: bertbcfm (Jun 12, 2009 9:26 am) Probably lots of after market filters would work. Luck Bert |
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Hi, 2002 Axiom Isuzu with 85K miles. Live outside Boston so we do have all 4 seasons. Drive by my wife who is not an aggressive driver. Just picked her up after complaining of banging and loss of control this afternoon. Found that the Traction Bar is completely rusted off the frame. In fact the entire frame is completely rused through where the traction bar connects to the frame! I do not believe it will be possible to make the repair the car easily. AAA tow guy says this is not an easy repair as I thought. Either Frame needs to be replaced or an entire section must be completely cut out and replaced. Looks VERY expensive. I cannot believe that the frame would rust through after 7 years! I've lived here all my life and have never seen this happen to any automobile. Has anyone else experienced premature rusting of the frame or other components? I just dropped it off at the dealer and we are expecting the worst. Any and all advice is much appreciated. Thanks H
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Replying to: howardru (Jun 21, 2009 2:22 pm) I am the original owner of a 02 Axiom with 95K miles which has never left Central Florida and has zero rust on it. So, I suspect that this is salt damage from the winter roads in your area... In fact, I have often described the underside of the Axiom as being built like a tank. Whether undercoating was ever applied to your car or not in Boston, is a question I have at this point... It is a well known fact that many cars' undercarriages get rust damage up north - and only additional undercoating will prevent that, or regular car washing to remove the salt. Sorry it has happened to you though. More bad news: I went to my glove box, pulled my original documentation and have more bad news for you: even if you are the original owner, the 02 Axiom's "Limited Warranty Covering Perforation from Corrosion for New Isuzu Vehicles", as detailed in the original Isuzu Warranty Information booklet for the 2002 Isuzu Axiom, which I have in my hand and am reading from right now, only offers coverage for 100,000 miles or 72 months, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST. Since you are likely well past 72 months now- their original "rust through" protection is expired. Which is unfortunate, as it would have been valid if you had noticed the damage in the first 6 years. I am assuming that you are not the original owner and/or did not buy this 02 Axiom NEW after 6-22-2003. To be clear, if you had noticed this damage 2 years ago, you could have pressed for whatever warranty repair work you could get at that time. You can, and should still ask for help, and contact corporate Isuzu about this problem, but it's a long shot, IMHO. As you may know, Isuzu stopped selling cars and trucks in the US market in 2009, so there is no advantage for them to help you with this problem. The dealer will likely farm this repair out to another shop that specializes in frame repairs and welding. It will be expensive, but if the vehicle is paid for already, then you can continue to drive it after its fixed. Axioms are great vehicles, your corrosion problem aside, and you will just have to evaluate if the cost is worth it to you. If the dealer says it will cost you $3000 to fix it, then it may not be worth it, frankly. Just check the cost of an 02 Axiom on Ebay and you will see my point. And, the trade-in value is nearly nothing. But, since there is a federal "Cash for Clunkers" program on the horizon, if the repair bill is < $2K you may want to opt to fix it, drive it a short while and then trade it in under that program for the federal credit, if it qualifies. However, you would have to trade it in at another dealer, of course. The good news is that your wife was not injured by a car accident, which could have also happened. But, it is still a huge bummer, no matter how you slice or dice it. Again, I am sorry to hear that this happened to you.
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Replying to: walk_the_walk2 (Jun 21, 2009 5:30 pm) Thanks for the response. My wife is the original owner but as you said, I think we may be SOL. Even the old Isuzu dealer I jjust had the car towed to, is no longer in the busines of selling new cars (of any type) they just had their Chrysler, jeep franchise lost and now they sell used cars I think. However....Remembering that the Axiom is built upon the Rodeo chassis, which is also the Honda Passport Chassic, I just uncovered that the NHTSA just opened in inquirty into rust related problems on the Rodeo and Passport. Bingo! NHTSA Action Number : PE09030. Check it out.. This sounds to be the exact same problem. http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/defects/results.cfm Apparently 21 people have filed complaints and I just finished becoming #22. Not sure I'll get anywhere with this before I have to go buy her a new car, but whatever I can get back. No way am I going to spend much money on this car. If you are really that lucky, then I think it's time for you to trade that puppy in before the surprise rust sneaks up on you. I'll keep you posted.
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Replying to: howardru (Jun 21, 2009 6:20 pm) |
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Replying to: howardru (Jun 21, 2009 6:20 pm)
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Replying to: howardru (Jun 22, 2009 5:05 am) Cash for Clunkers Eligible Vehicles A National "Clunker Plan" - Good or Bad Idea? |
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Replying to: steve_ (Jun 22, 2009 7:09 am) I already looked into the Cash for Clunkers and I am hoping that this gets pushed through quickly. Everything I read says if you buy a car by July 1st, however thats 8 days from now and who knows how long it will take any dealer to get their systems setup to accept this payment. Just had AAA bring the car back to my house and it's sitting in our garage now. It's such a dam shame because everything else in the car works great (CD changer etc) and body is in great shape. I will call the local junkyard and see what they will offer for the car since it's worth far more in parts. I know the tax donations only allow $500 unless you can prove it was re-sold which won't happen. Let me see what happens with insurance and the clunker law before I start selling off the parts.
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Replying to: howardru (Jun 22, 2009 9:01 am) I haven't seen anything firm about buy now, get voucher money later. I've been having trouble trying to keep up with all the C4C stuff though. Letting the Axiom sit isn't going to hurt anything, but if you have to sit for ~6 weeks. That's not going to work. Maybe a long term rent-a-wreck rental? |
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I need to replace the brake lamp on my axiom but there seems to be two hidden screws holding it in, any Idea how to remove the tail light assembly?
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