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by m4d_cow
Oct 19, 2008 (10:06 pm)
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Well, some areas dont have bus system running through or if they have one, terribly unsafe, I can understand your reasoning, oldfarmer, but things have really changed, at least thats what my mom said. Heck its even a lot different from 10 years ago when I was still in highschool. Even my dad, who always balk at the idea of spoiling any of his kids, wouldnt let us go near a spitting distance from the bus system now.
 
Anyways to me the IS is a decent idea, none too flashy nor too expensive (resale is pretty weak for this model). And the idea of monthly payment teaches her responsibility. I'm not sure driving stick is that hard, but as less and less americans know how to drive stick, maybe its just me.
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Re: [m4d_cow] by tankbeans
Oct 20, 2008 (9:06 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Oct 19, 2008 10:06 pm)

I wish I had learned to drive a stick earlier, I'm only 20, but there were tons of cars that I could have had if I knew how to drive a stick. I'm learning now.
 
I think the IS would be a good idea, since it is fully paid for, as it seems that if you treat them well many Japanese models won't give you any problems. I know there are exceptions to every rule. Also, you know this car and don't have to guess at how well somebody has treated it and or maintained it.
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Re: [m4d_cow] by westgmn
Oct 20, 2008 (11:13 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Oct 17, 2008 10:15 pm)

haaha jesus you do have me beat...I agree with you on the responsibility issue. I just feel like this generation of kids, which I am unfortunately part of, has been given way too many things. America is becoming intellectually inferior each day because kids are being rewarded for mediocrity. This obviously leads to mediocrity becoming the standard measurement of what is considered sufficent in regards to working hard to go to college or to simply getting a job. Your experience definitly sheds light on this trend. A kid given a Ferrari for simply graduating high school? "Come on" is exactly right.
 
Frankly, I do not have a problem with individual who bought the jag. They were given a reasonable price range and they were able to find a car that they enjoy. I also applaud the fact that the individual worked in order to put some of their own money into the car. You are completely correct, they were a smart shopper.
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Help me select a new vehicle by kiminar
Nov 08, 2008 (8:12 am)
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This topic is similar to one below..
 
My daughter just turned 16 and wants her own vehicle. We live in northwest Arkansas - lots of hills and curves. Our house is about 4 miles down a dirt road. I have a 4WD Tahoe (love it), my husband has a Sierra (not 4WD, and he gets stuck in the driveway when ground is wet). So, my daughter probably needs 4WD. But, I don't think a small car with low clearance would work. Also, I would get stuck and/or slide with my 4WD before I got "offroad" tires.
 
People on the other discussion suggested Impreza, Vibe and Matrix. Would these options fit my needs? Or, is there other suggestions?
 
BTW, most teenagers around here, even girls, drive pickups.
And, I am looking for a used vehicle.
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Re: Help me select a new vehicle [kiminar] by kiawah
Nov 08, 2008 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: kiminar (Nov 08, 2008 8:12 am)

Subaru's 4wd should be on your possible list, and might even consider Honda CRV's and Toyota Rav's if you can find a 4wd used. You might have better 4wd selections and pricing of pickups or SUV's (e.g. Ford explorer).
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Re: Help me select a new vehicle [kiawah] by tankbeans
Nov 08, 2008 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: kiawah (Nov 08, 2008 9:14 am)

If you can find a used 6 cylinder Escape with 4wd that might be a good bet. I've heard the the 4 cylinders, at least with the Escape, with 4wd are more or less useless. I wouldn't think that the mileage would be too different, as I sort of peak around at cars with both 4s and 6s and the mileage is usually only different by about 2 or something. Of course there are exceptions to every rule.
 
The nice part about the Escape is that it's been around long enough that you can get a used one for $6k or less. I haven't looked into them, but the Escape has been around since 2000(not sure of the year), but I know that Ford's lose their value pretty fast, even though they are still about average in terms of reliability.
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Re: Help me select a new vehicle [kiminar] by qbrozen
Nov 08, 2008 (7:54 pm)
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Replying to: kiminar (Nov 08, 2008 8:12 am)

What kind of pricerange are you thinking?
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Re: Help me select a new vehicle [qbrozen] by kiminar
Nov 09, 2008 (6:22 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 08, 2008 7:54 pm)

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Less than $20,000 - would really like it to be closer to $12,000.
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Re: Help me select a new vehicle [kiminar] by qbrozen
Nov 09, 2008 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: kiminar (Nov 09, 2008 6:22 am)

well, heck, for that money, you don't even have to go used.
 
New Suzuki SX4?
 
Or just go with the lightly used Subaru.
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Kiminar by m4d_cow
Nov 22, 2008 (11:39 am)
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Late to the discussion, but Kiminar can you tell us what dealerships are available in your area? Or is it easy to find just about any brand? Judging from the area you're in, I assume lots of slippery dirtroads and ditches, especially after snow or rain. If it's true then you're right, AWD seems a must. You need to be more specific with your criterias, for example:
1) Do you need room or pickups are just fine?
2) What size do you expect, midsize, somewhat compact? She's 16 so I discourage getting her anything large like your Tahoe.
3) Does fuel economy matter much?
4) Who'll pay for gas and maintenance?
5) Depreciation. Are you planning to resale it anytime soon, or drive it till it drops?
 
My assumption so far: she'll pay for gas at least. So gas guzzlers are out. Here's what I think:
 
As a former Escape v6 driver I can say it's a decent AWD ride. Roomier than you might expect, and cheap maintenance. Downsides are few: crude sounding engine, CD player kept scratching my cds even after being replaced, and large amount of brakedust.
However, please remember this: avoid the 4-cyl. models at all cost! The engine's prone to numerous problems includng misfiring, fuel economy barely any different from v6, plus you get a lot of clutch slipping as bonus.
 As a consideration a used 1yr old v6 model can be had for $15-16k around here. My top recommendation.
 
Matrix-Vibe twin not a bad choice, but they're on the small side. Their AWD also meant for light duty, I wonder if your terrain condition allows that. Should you decide to choose this model I recommend the Vibe for it's higher ground clearance and lower price. Another suggested Suzuki SX4. This is a decent vehicle, but really small, and I doubt the AWD works for your case.
 
If you prefer Japanese products I recommend Subaru or Nissan. The others are either too expensive or unreliable.
 
Subaru has the most durable AWD I can think of. An older used one isn't that much of an issue as Subaru engines are known to last longer than the rest of the car itself. The only potential problem is it's a wagon thus stands closer to the ground. I don't know how bad the road gets in your are but I'd give it a try since Impreza and Outback survive dirt road better than most people think. Also, I don't think the CR-V and Rav4 are good ideas. No matter what they say those aren't meant for actual dirt-road. They'll get stuck way before the Subaru does, and they cost more thanks to ridiculously strong resale. A 2yr old Impreza wagon cost about $18-19k, whereas 2yr old CRVs and Rav4s can strangle you with the $22-25k price tag.
Is resale a big consideration? If not you can take advantage of Subaru's AWD in the form of Saab 9-2x. Its basically a blatant Impreza wagon ripoff, but it depreciate so deeply you can get the same MY(model year) 92x as the Subaru for the same price or (sometimes even) less!!!
 
The other model I dare recommend is Nissan's X-terra. Not the best model from Nissan nor the most fuel efficient, and it looks umm... macho, but it handles dirt and ditches with ease. I dare say that as I've seen those going up the Aspen. Nissan's not so great resale should put good value for your budget.
 
Another potential product, though rarely (if ever) mentioned is Kia's Sorento. Reliability not so good, but on par with domestics. Midsize at compact price, strong AWD (I've seen a couple of those on the Aspen along w/ the X-terra) it's brother Hyundai doesn't have. Add generous warranty + horrific resale and you get huge value. A 1yr old top-end Sorento should cost no more than $14k loaded. This should offset dismal 18mpg fuel economy a bit. I dont suggest it if you plan on reselling it, but otherwise its a great value.
 
Goodluck.

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