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Re: Compact cars are not good for teenage drivers [tidester] by supereagle
Oct 17, 2008 (11:34 am)
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Replying to: tidester (Oct 14, 2008 12:35 am)

I understand some of your concerns about putting teenagers in these large cars and suvs.
 
However, also keep in mind that a lot of teenagers get into single vehicle accidents. So that extra space would be a benefit to them.
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Re: I've been thinking. [tankbeans] by explorerx4
Oct 17, 2008 (3:38 pm)
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Replying to: tankbeans (Oct 16, 2008 1:09 pm)

that's the car i see a lot of kids driving.
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Re: I've been thinking. [explorerx4] by tankbeans
Oct 17, 2008 (5:07 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Oct 17, 2008 3:38 pm)

Well, they're a dime a dozen. They're cheap and most kids are happy to get something newish. I know that you can get a good one used for around $5400 or thereabouts. I know this only because I used to go and look at how much things were worth.
 
I was always amazed that my car was the 2nd to oldest car in my family and yet it was worth more than all of the rest of the cars in my family. I look at kelly bluebook fairly often. I'm weird that way.
 
On a side note:
 
I disagree that a kid shouldn't have any say in the car that they get. If a person is going to spend the money on something that is going to be driven it needs to be something that the kid isn't going to purposely beat the snot out of. I know many kids, if they don't like a car, will beat the crap out of it and then you're back at square one. I think the wisest move is to do research on a number of different cars and narrow it down to 3 or 4 and let the kid pick. By all means don't say you can get anything you want as long as it's under $X. A lot of times a kid will go for all show and no go, meaning the car might be a pile of scrap, but it would look cool. If I'm confusing sorry.
 
I just know that I am very recently out of the age group being discussed. I'll chime in once in a while to give my perspective.
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by m4d_cow
Oct 17, 2008 (10:15 pm)
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"In the area that I live where kids with audis and acuras generally drive like they are brain dead, the M6 definitly takes the cake. "
Not even close, westgmn. Take a look at what I've seen:
Here where I live you'll see at least a couple 18 y.o kids driving Ferrari F360 there. Cake taken already? No, my friend, thats just icing on the cake, these kids drive those Ferraris to.... (brace yourself, barf bucket in hand) .... the local COMMUNITY COLLEGE!!!!!!!! I encountered this baffling sight 2 months ago when I met a client there (who happens to be a staff), of course as the community college is only 3 blocks away from work then this has become a regular view to me. If you havent barfed enough, here's the cherry topping:
I asked one of them about the ferrari, he replied: "yeah its my highschool graduation present, cool aint it?"
I asked if he's visiting there, he shamelessly replied "No, I go to school here"
I asked him if he's kidding me, he gave me a blank stare " Huh, why? Did I say something funny?"
Brain-dead? Understatement. Brain-less? Jackpot. Searching for brain:... ... Brain Not Found
 
On the other hand, I once met a 19 y.o who drives an '06 Jaguar XJ. I asked about the car, he said he was given 25k for a car, he worked a bit to add $2k and got himself the Jag. The Jaguar is a CPO, thus theres a 1+2 yr warranty that matches the Camry's. Both cars pull 20 mpg. The Jag needs premium fuel but the free maintenance (that the camry doesnt have) covers the difference. Brain dead? More like a smart shopper to me.
 
3rd case, I know a friend of my sister's who drive another Ferrari (I think it was an F355).
I asked her about the car and she simply said "Just for today"
I asked her why a Ferrari, she said "Its the only thing left in the garage, I usually take my dad's Cayenne but he needs it right now"
I asked her if she ever felt the cars are too expensive for her, she said "I can ask them to buy me a car but that'll be a waste of their money, so I just drive whatever's in the garage. As long as I dont drive like an idiot I guess I'll be fine"
 
Here's the thing. Like everyone else I agree there's no age limit to a luxury brand or any car for that matter. Additionally, I dont think giving a 100k or even 1 million dollar car to a 16 y.o is a mistake, IF the driver is responsible enough. Whether said driver is responsible or not is something we can decide, we simply cannot pass such judgement. I have personally met a 14 y.o girl who happens to be wiser and more mature than my 30 y.o co-worker. Thats why I dont think the Jaguar kid's parents are making a terrible judgement, however I do think the Ferrari boy's parents are brain dead. Their son is only smart enough to get into a community college and they gave him a Ferrari? Come on.
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by m4d_cow
Oct 17, 2008 (10:33 pm)
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A 19 y.o leasing a G35? No I'm not jealous. I do however wonder if you make all those payments out of your own pocket (no attacks intended here)
If you do, please remember that there's about 1 person like you in a million.
If you dont, then I'm sorry but you dont deserve to call that car yours.
 
Me? I could drive my parents lexus or mb but my dad decided I need the true driving lesson. Didnt matter as I was happy enough with my "junkmobile" when I was in school. Its a terrible car compared to my parents', but I ealrned to drive in any possible condition with it. As the result now I can drive a Lexus LX through a tight space with no more than 4 inches of room on either side smoothly. No worries
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Re: [m4d_cow] by tankbeans
Oct 18, 2008 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Oct 17, 2008 10:15 pm)

Their son is only smart enough to get into a community college and they gave him a Ferrari?
  
Here's the other side of the coin. I consider myself smart, but I can't afford to go to anything but a community college. My parent's couldn't even afford to buy me a $2000 car let alone a Ferrari.
 
Perhaps, he's at a community college because his parents can't afford anything after the Ferrari. Either way it's not a smart thing. Or they gave him a choice saying you can go to any school you want or you can have a Ferrari. Stupid I agree, but what can I say?
 
My mom has said it over and over again. It seems that kids end up being accessories. Meaning that since the parents work all the time they buy their kids expensive crap as a way of saying "Look what I can afford to give my kid."
 
No attacks on my side either, but it seems fairly accurate.
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Re: [m4d_cow] by tidester HOST
Oct 18, 2008 (12:50 pm)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Oct 17, 2008 10:15 pm)

Their son is only smart enough to get into a community college and they gave him a Ferrari?
 
You don't know that. There are many reasons why one would choose a community college over, say, a four year liberal arts school. You also said "we simply cannot pass such judgement" with regard to responsibility but it would seem to apply here just as well.
 
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by m4d_cow
Oct 18, 2008 (10:23 pm)
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Ah true, tidester, there are reasons for that, but I dont see any excuse for any ferrari boy (aka wealthy enough) parent deciding to send their kids to a community college over a decent university. No matter what they say most community colleges simply do not offer the same level of education as a university. Even if we're talking about one actually capable of delivering university level education (yes there are some), trust me this particular college isnt one of them.
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New Driver by teasip
Oct 19, 2008 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Oct 18, 2008 10:23 pm)

I'm in this position at present. 15 y/o, soon to be 16 y/o and I need to get her something for her to drive to/from school since her elderly grandfather is doing it for her at present (at least to school in the a.m.). My thought is I need to get her something that will be reliable through two additional years of high school as well as four years of college. At that point, the ball is in her court. My well laid plans are apparently being shot down. I purchased the Civic Si sedan last year ('08 model) as well as an 8 year no-deductible warranty with the intention of her learning to drive a manual as well as providing a reliable car, plus I would get to drive it for a year for the fun of it! She argues that it's too difficult trying to shift and concentrate on driving which may be a valid argument (she is a responsible teen). I could give her mom's '04 IS300 (paid for) with 40+K miles but I'm not wanting her to have repair costs to deal with away from home if necessary.
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Re: New Driver [teasip] by oldfarmer50
Oct 19, 2008 (1:12 pm)
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Replying to: teasip (Oct 19, 2008 8:41 am)

"...for her to drive to/from school..."
 
Have you considered having her take the school bus? Not as fancy as a Civic but she could learn to shift by watching the driver. Save gramps for driving her to a job so she can save up for a car of her own.
 
If she balks at the idea of the school bus, tell her to think of it as a chauffeur driven 66 passenger SUV.

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