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Re: Very late to the conversation I know. [explorerx4] by tankbeans
Oct 12, 2008 (3:48 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Oct 12, 2008 2:02 pm)

By post HS I mean that I am out of High School. I simply mean that I am driving a different car than I did in high school. I'm trying to go to college but am having trouble getting my work schedules to mesh with classes. I'm learning a very hard lesson indeed, but I am better for it.
 
Currently I pay $400 for my car and $160 for full coverage. I decided to buy an extended warranty on my car and I had a little bit of negative equity from my 95 Accord EX when I traded it in. Long story on that one.
 
In retrospect I loved my 95 Accord and should have kept it, but what can I say I wanted a newer car.
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Re: Very late to the conversation I know. [tankbeans] by explorerx4
Oct 12, 2008 (5:51 pm)
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Replying to: tankbeans (Oct 12, 2008 3:48 pm)

i think i get where you are at.
whatever you do, keep your eye on where you want to go.
there are online courses that don't have clock time commitments.
i have had a couple of vehicles i have regretted trading in or selling. one was an 88 tbird and the other a 97 explorer. i still have the car i bought after selling the 88 tbird, back in 1991.
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much more than 30k by westgmn
Oct 12, 2008 (6:35 pm)
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Replying to: tankbeans (Oct 12, 2008 1:13 pm)

Just want to make an insight about how disconnected people are from reality, especially where I live-
 
The first day of high school 2 years ago, a kid, who I am acquaintinced with, pulled up in a black on black BMW M6. Needless to say many were shocked including myself. His parents payed over a 100k for it and when I asked why such an extravagance, he replied "my father felt I should be rewarded for my eventual graduation."...... I know, I almost threw up out of disgust too.
 
My reward for doing well and graduating from high school is currently having most of my college education and law/business school, should I choose to take that path, paid for by my father. And I know that is considered spoiled by most and that is certainly fine because they are entitled to their opinion. But there is absolutely no excuse or defense to giving a 500 horsepower, automated-manual controlled, 2 ton vehicle to someone who does not even know how to drive a stick shift. It is equal to that of a giving a toddler a loaded gun. Just an accident waiting to happen.
 
In the area that I live where kids with audis and acuras generally drive like they are brain dead, the M6 definitly takes the cake.
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Re: much more than 30k [westgmn] by carexpert08
Oct 12, 2008 (7:12 pm)
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Replying to: westgmn (Oct 12, 2008 6:35 pm)

Well I would like to add into this discussion. I am currently 19 and recently signed a lease on a infiniti g35x 2008. I believe that there shouldn't be a specific age when your allowed to drive a premium brand. For the last 2 years I drove a Land Rover/BMW my prents cars. The thinks people on this forum are saying about teen drivers just makes them seem completely outdated and jealous.
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Re: Very late to the conversation I know. [tankbeans] by tidester HOST
Oct 12, 2008 (9:53 pm)
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Replying to: tankbeans (Oct 12, 2008 1:13 pm)

Thanks for speaking up!
 
I am curious - you said "my mom's best friend cosigned a loan for me." Why would your parents not cosign for you? Was that their insistence on you doing it all on your own?
 
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Re: much more than 30k [carexpert08] by tidester HOST
Oct 12, 2008 (10:07 pm)
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Replying to: carexpert08 (Oct 12, 2008 7:12 pm)

just makes them seem completely outdated and jealous
 
I don't think so. There is nothing outdated about responsibility and safety. Invoking the notion of jealousy is a distraction and misses the points upon which we should focus rather than attempting to judge others.
 
In my humble opinion, the (general) difference in maturity and responsibility between a 19 year old willing to make the commitment of paying off a lease and a 16 year old being handed a "premium brand" is not insignificant. It's apples and oranges.
 
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Re: Very late to the conversation I know. [tidester] by tankbeans
Oct 12, 2008 (10:33 pm)
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Replying to: tidester (Oct 12, 2008 9:53 pm)

My mom's best friend is pretty much my aunt. She has been there since before I was born and is still a big part of my life. My parents didn't cosign because their credit sucked and they knew.
 
My mom's friend signed because I was graduating, the only one in my family to do so, not counting my parents. Both of my brothers decided to drop out. Her friend wanted to help me by getting me a loan for a nicer car. I was driving a 17 year old Buick that was rendered a coupe because the drivers side doors wouldn't open. After the loan was gotten I was on my own with regards to payments.
 
Oh she did make the first payment as a birthday present since I graduated about 2 weeks after my birthday.
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Re: much more than 30k [carexpert08] by tankbeans
Oct 12, 2008 (10:41 pm)
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Replying to: carexpert08 (Oct 12, 2008 7:12 pm)

I believe that there shouldn't be a specific age when your allowed to drive a premium brand.
 
Very true. There isn't a set age limit to drive a premium brand. That isn't the point. You are paying for your premium brand, while the 16 year old kids most likely aren't. I know there are exceptions to every rule. Most might have to buy their own gas or something like that, but they really aren't responsible for the meat of the upkeep. A 16 year old would be hard-pressed to make enough money, while going to high-school, to pay for anything near even the loan payment.
 
In your situation, you are paying for the car and presumably the insurance and all of the happiness that comes with it. I'd like to drive a premium brand (ie Acura, Audi, BMW,) but I can't afford one.
 
Jealous of those who can? No, I'm working with what I have. The car I have is pretty nice, paid for by me. I have an 03 Accord LX with 56k on it. To me it's about as premium as I would want.
 
I can't see spending 40k on a car, but that's just me. It's been said before and it will be said again. "To each his own."
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Re: much more than 30k [carexpert08] by westgmn
Oct 13, 2008 (4:14 pm)
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Replying to: carexpert08 (Oct 12, 2008 7:12 pm)

" I am currently 19 and recently signed a lease on a infiniti g35x 2008. I believe that there shouldn't be a specific age when your allowed to drive a premium brand."
 
I did not mention anything about there needing to be an age limit established to prevent kids from driving premium brands. I just think that when parents buy a kid a missile with tires for his or her first car that there is a certain lack of thinking on their part, critical or otherwise. And that lack of thinking could get someone killed which is why I take exception to some car purchases for kids.
 
"For the last 2 years I drove a Land Rover/BMW my prents cars. The thinks people on this forum are saying about teen drivers just makes them seem completely outdated and jealous."
 
I have also driven my parents "premium brand cars" before but I do not see how it holds any relevance to this particular conversation other than for you to showcase how well off you believe yourself to be. I am certainly not jealous of you mainly for the fact that instead of my parents giving me a flashy nameplate, I got something much more significant which is the sense of responsibility and value that comes with purchasing your own car. That will get me a hell of alot farther than a bmw or audi in life. And I do not think it is "outdated" for people to be concerned about their children.
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Compact cars are not good for teenage drivers by supereagle
Oct 13, 2008 (8:38 pm)
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Compact cars have the worst fatality rate in vehicle deaths. In 2004 NHTSA statistics show 17.76 deaths per 100,000 vehicles. People think the mpg and nimbleness of these cars are great for beginning drivers.
 
Why would you want you child to drive a small vehilce that just got their license or is learning to drive. One recent poster mentioned cars such as the volkswagen rabbit, ford focus, and the honda fit as great teenage cars. It doesn't matter how many airbags these vehicles have. If these small car gets into an accident with a full size car or something such as a midsize SUV the person in the compact car is at a major disadvantage. It simply has to do with the laws of physics. These compact are are so much lighter, somtimes as much by 1,500 pounds than a full size car.
 
It's best to have your child drive a car with a lot of "meat" around it. I even see a growing number of teenagers drive minivans now. Even a used mercury grand marquis would be a nice car for a beginning driver. I learned how to drive using a mid size suv. Yes, suvs aren't for everyone. Some people say suvs are not safe but thats what I used to learn how to drive. You should buy a full size or atleast a midsize car for your teenager to drive. A minivan would be also be great becuse they carry a lot of passangers safely..
  
People shouldn't be putting cost and savings for mpg as the top reasons for buying their child a car. Safety should be the number one priority. You guys buying those compact cars for your children are making a big mistake.

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