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Smart Shopper Best Car for a new teenage driver
551 messages, Last post on Nov 07, 2009 at 4:06 PM
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Replying to: morin2 (Nov 05, 2009 4:57 pm) Plus they're cheap - just stay away from the 3.0 V6 and you'll be fine. Mine is about 4-6 inches higher than a typical pickup and has big metal bars on the sides(added - $200 used) plus I added another roll bar inside. It's safe and then some. Probably run over a Smart Car without realizing it 
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Replying to: morin2 (Nov 05, 2009 4:57 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 06, 2009 4:36 pm) 3rd paragraph, last sentence: "The IIHS also tells us that small pickups have the highest driver death rates of any vehicles on the road, which makes these tests all the more significant." Somewhere there are rates by model as well. Ranger was highest for many years. The data for small pickup death rates has been the highest of any vehicle type for at least the past 3 decades. |
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Replying to: morin2 (Nov 06, 2009 6:53 pm) The reason he survived was certainly because his old Toyota was so solidly built and all the extra stuff he put on it(the big bull bars and so on saved the engine from ending up in his lap, though the truck was totaled otherwise)) Look, nothing is perfect. little econoboxes aren't much better. If it was me, I'd get my son an old Town Car, but....
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Replying to: plekto (Nov 06, 2009 7:25 am)  Maybe if the driver of said Smart was shaken you could load their car into the cargo hold and bring them someplace to calm down. 
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Replying to: tankbeans (Nov 07, 2009 7:16 am) Looks like someone already had that idea. http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/smart%20car%20crash1.jpg Of course, you're right - it might be easy to just load into the cargo bay after a crash. I honestly haven't seen anything that bad since VW Bugs were on the road.
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Replying to: plekto (Nov 07, 2009 8:22 am) The sad part is that the first one was probably loaded with 2 or 3 decent sized guys without a forklift. I think they're just too small for our roadways and the number of huge land barges that are floating around. I wouldn't feel safe in one. I'm not talking down about choices that people make about what they drive. That's their prerogative, but something that small is not Smart (pardon the pun). They're barely more visible than a motorcycle. /end off topic discussion. Nice finds with the pics though. |
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Replying to: morin2 (Nov 06, 2009 6:53 pm) In 2006 small pickups experienced 116 driver deaths per million registered vehicles I see that as a fairly meaningless stat. some people drive 5,000 miles a year, others 50,000. i would prefer passenger miles, like airline safety is measured. |
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Replying to: plekto (Nov 06, 2009 8:20 pm)
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Replying to: british_rover (Nov 07, 2009 12:52 pm) The sliders/nerf bars are 18 inches high and the front bumper is 40 inches at the top and covers the entire area in the middle. True, the sides aren't protected versus a truck like mine, but I also have a roll bar installed right behind the front seats(there's one in the bed as well - came that way). I figure if they get lucky enough to hit me at the right angle with a SUV where they don't hit the nerf or roll bars first, my number was up anyways. Roling over while off-roading was my #1 concern, so I put the extra protection in for a couple of hundred dollars. |
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