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Re: '07 BMW328i vs 06 Acura TL [backy] by srs_49
Jan 15, 2009 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 14, 2009 1:46 pm)

I don't worry much about clutches. My '87 BMW with 188,000 miles is still on the original clutch, as is my '92 Sentra SE-R, with 144,000 miles.
 
And I don't worry about automatic transmissions on BMW's because I won't own one with an automatic.
 
So for me, an extended warranty makes no financial sense.
 
I understand about the -5 F in the garage. My son is in Rochester, MN, and he hasn't felt like crawling under his cars since Thanksgiving!
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Re: '07 BMW328i vs 06 Acura TL [srs_49] by backy
Jan 15, 2009 (8:13 pm)
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Replying to: srs_49 (Jan 15, 2009 9:20 am)

Funny thing about the clutches... I was ready to jump on a 2000 323i this fall, had only 43k miles. Called the dealer and they said it was in the shop for a new clutch and so I couldn't drive it yet. Several days later it was ready and the price had gone up $1400 because of the clutch repair. Fooey, I thought, a car advertised from a dealer should be in working order, clutch included, so I looked elsewhere. Got a 2000 328Ci. After a few weeks I noticed the clutch would slip sometimes. That car had only 69k on it. Then the fuel pump failed ($800) and I found out that the part to make the moonroof shade work right was $1000, I unloaded that puppy.
 
Trannies aren't the only expensive things on 3 Series that can break.
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Re: '07 BMW328i vs 06 Acura TL [backy] by roadburner
Jan 15, 2009 (8:47 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 15, 2009 8:13 pm)

Trannies aren't the only expensive things on 3 Series that can break
 
That's especially true when you walk into a dealer who charges outrageous prices, throw them your credit card, and grab you ankles. Happens EVERY time...
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Re: '07 BMW328i vs 06 Acura TL [roadburner] by fedlawman
Jan 15, 2009 (9:21 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Jan 15, 2009 8:47 pm)

Yup, you can buy a clutch kit from Bav Auto for $250. Anyone paying $1400 for a new clutch is either a billionaire, and idiot, or both.
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Re: '07 BMW328i vs 06 Acura TL [backy] by srs_49
Jan 16, 2009 (4:14 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 15, 2009 8:13 pm)

Trannies aren't the only expensive things on 3 Series that can break.
 
Amen to that one!
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Re: '07 BMW328i vs 06 Acura TL [fedlawman] by lemmer
Jan 16, 2009 (6:34 am)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Jan 15, 2009 9:21 pm)

I could buy a clutch for $250, but then I would just sit there and look at it much like a caveman would look at a microwave. The BMW places around here won't install parts that you bring it, so what's next? $1400 does seem a little high, but not idiot high.
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Re: '07 BMW328i vs 06 Acura TL [lemmer] by srs_49
Jan 16, 2009 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: lemmer (Jan 16, 2009 6:34 am)

I could buy a clutch for $250, but then I would just sit there and look at it much like a caveman would look at a microwave. The BMW places around here won't install parts that you bring it, so what's next? $1400 does seem a little high, but not idiot high.
 
Agreed.
 
When I bought my '87 back in 1999, the clutch was the one big ticket item I was worried about. I asked the shop I sometimes use what the price would be to replace it and they said (can't remember exactly) $750 or $950. Since I was getting a good deal on the car, I said "hey, i can live with that".
 
So, given that that was almost 10 years ago, and the fact that my '87 is probably easier to work on than the newer models (just guessing here), $1400 doesn't sound too bad.
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Re: '07 BMW328i vs 06 Acura TL [lemmer] by fedlawman
Jan 16, 2009 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: lemmer (Jan 16, 2009 6:34 am)

Sorry, but $1400 is crazy high. A quality private shop will charge $80 to $100/hour.
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Re: '07 BMW328i vs 06 Acura TL [fedlawman] by backy
Jan 16, 2009 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Jan 15, 2009 9:21 pm)

In this case it was a car dealer who paid the $1400 for the new clutch. You'd think they'd know better than to throw their money out the window like that on a clutch repair!
 
I know it's hard for some people to believe that not everyone is willing or able to do their own major repairs on a BMW, or that emergency situations come up that leave little or no choice for course of action. But that is reality. If it makes those folks feel nice and smug and superior because they've never been in those kinds of situations, how wonderful for them.
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Re: '07 BMW328i vs 06 Acura TL [backy] by roadburner
Jan 16, 2009 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 16, 2009 8:42 am)

In this case it was a car dealer who paid the $1400 for the new clutch. You'd think they'd know better than to throw their money out the window like that on a clutch repair!
 
Not necessarily. It's also possible that they told you it cost $1400 so you'd think that you were getting a good deal on the car.
 
I know it's hard for some people to believe that not everyone is willing or able to do their own major repairs on a BMW
 
No, but it is hard to believe that some people aren't willing to seek out good dealers and shops that perform quality work at fair prices. For example, for just $40 per year you can join BMW CCA which will get you:
Significant discounts at many dealers and shops
The ability to obtain advice about your car and local shops from other CCA members in your area
Access to technical advisors
 
emergency situations come up that leave little or no choice for course of action
 
You called the $800 fuel pump dealer because you didn't know a local shop to call, correct?
 
But that is reality.
 
For you, maybe.
 
If it makes those folks feel nice and smug and superior because they've never been in those kinds of situations, how wonderful for them.
 
I've owned nine BMWs over the past 25 years, most of them over five years old. Currently I run a 2004, a 1995, and a 1975. It's not a question of being "smug and superior". It's a question of being prepared by doing your homework. You bought one seven year old BMW and had it serviced by a dealer who charges out the wazoo- then you sell it less than four months after you bought it. Based on that extensive experience you continue to post about expensive BMW repairs. I'm not saying BMWs are the cheapest cars to maintain, but a little due diligence and common sense goes a long way when running an older BMW. I'm sorry you got hosed by your dealer, but for about every horror story about expensive BMW service costs I can point you to someone who runs an older BMW for less than $600-$700 per year.

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