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#11 of 466 Re: What is a better buy: 1999 BMW M3 or 2001 330ci (same mileage each) [fdg07] by quattroporte12 Aug 10, 2006 (2:28 pm)
Replying to: fdg07 (Aug 10, 2006 2:01 pm) The m3 is made to handle more power, but, you have to remember that it is a generation older than the 330ci, which means when the 3 series was redesigned, the parts in the new one were much better than the old generation's parts, which means the parts in the 330 are probably as good or better than the ones in the old generation m3 because of the new technology. I dont know much about chips or turbos so i cant help you there, but i would say that the m3 is going to be more expensive and harder to reapair 1) because it is older (may have to order parts for it, versus having them in stock) and 2) because it was probably driven harder than the 330ci and could have much more wear. You should look at each car's technical specs to find out about braking, but, once again, the 330ci probably has equal or better braking due to its newer technology. Replies to this message: div2 (Aug 10, 2006 6:10 pm) quattroporte12 (Aug 10, 2006 7:20 pm)
#12 of 466 Re: What is a better buy: 1999 BMW M3 or 2001 330ci (same mileage each) [fdg07] by div2 Aug 10, 2006 (5:51 pm)
Replying to: fdg07 (Aug 10, 2006 2:01 pm) Wouldnt the m3 have better handling or better tranny or brakes then the 330ci?   Yes, the handling and braking of the E36 M3 is better. It is also less "idiot proof" than the 330i; you have to know what you are doing in order to extract the best performance from it.   I mean arent the mechanical parts of the m3 made to handle more power then the 330ci if I put on lets say a chip or turbo??   Almost any vehicle will need a brake upgrade if you add forced induction. The E36 M3 is no exception. The best bang for your buck would be a Conforti Shark Injector and CAI.   im also wondering which one has the better braking and which one requires more maintanance and is more expensive to repair and maintane despite its age   Maintenance and repair costs will be roughly similar as, unlike the E30 and E46 variants, the US E36 M3 uses a 3.2 liter version of the garden variety BMW six cylinder engine.
#13 of 466 Re: What is a better buy: 1999 BMW M3 or 2001 330ci (same mileage each) [fdg07] by div2 Aug 10, 2006 (5:57 pm)
Replying to: fdg07 (Aug 10, 2006 2:05 pm) Would a chip(add more power) lower the life of the engine such as the supercharger does? would a turbo lower the life of an engine as well?   A chip-actually an ECU reflash for OBD II cars-will not affect engine longevity to on a normally aspirated car. A turbo or S/C is more likely to shorten engine life due to the increased loads placed on the engine. A lot depends on the maximum boost as well as how long the engine operates at high boost pressures.   To reiterate: Either car would be an excellent choice. If you are a hands-on kind of driver you'll find that the E36 M3 makes an excellent street/track car which can be tweaked or modified to your heart's content. The 330i will be equally as quick only smoother and more civilized. You really need to drive both, evaluate YOUR priorities and then YOU need to make the call.
#14 of 466 Re: What is a better buy: 1999 BMW M3 or 2001 330ci (same mileage each) [quattroporte12] by div2 Aug 10, 2006 (6:10 pm)
Replying to: quattroporte12 (Aug 10, 2006 2:28 pm) the parts in the new one were much better than the old generation's parts, which means the parts in the 330 are probably as good or better than the ones in the old generation m3 because of the new technology   Interesting. Which E46 parts are better? And in what way? What "new technology" are you referring to? Double VANOS?   i would say that the m3 is going to be more expensive and harder to repair 1) because it is older (may have to order parts for it, versus having them in stock)   That's funny; my dealer stocks almost any E36 specific part I've ever needed. As for ordered parts, they cost the same as stocked parts. An E36 is no more difficult to repair than an E46.   it was probably driven harder than the 330ci and could have much more wear.   Possibly, though I've run across more than a few thrashed E46 cars. Either car should undergo a thorough PPI from a good BMW tech.   You should look at each car's technical specs to find out about braking, but, once again, the 330ci probably has equal or better braking due to its newer technology.   And that "new technology" is? Replies to this message: quattroporte12 (Aug 10, 2006 7:20 pm)
#15 of 466 Re: What is a better buy: 1999 BMW M3 or 2001 330ci (same mileage each) [div2] by quattroporte12 Aug 10, 2006 (7:20 pm)
Replying to: div2 (Aug 10, 2006 6:10 pm) A newer generation or a car = newer technology and engineering. Period. Why would BMW redesign a car and put the same old technology and engineering into it??? The m3 MAY be harder to repair, because it is MORE likley to be driven hard then the 330ci, and ordering parts involves WAITING, which can be an inconvenience. 330ci is a newer, all around better car.

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