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A very interesting bit of electric vehicle news came up on the Alternate Route this morning... Bond, James Bond |
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http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2008/02/29/079263.html Daimler claims that they are first to get the li-ion in practical mode for autos. Don't know if that's true or not. I do know that the hybrid in the piece gets around 30 mpg. Nothing to write home about, but good for a powerful luxury car I suppose. |
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Replying to: marketdisc (Jan 30, 2008 9:31 pm) Thunder Sky Batteries; Dark Cloud or Silver Lining? http://www.electric-echo.com/blog/?p=53 ThunderSky Lithium-Ion Cells - LiIon experiences http://www.casadelgato.com/ThunderSky/ Basic guidelines for selecting the battery and points to consider http://www.metricmind.com/ac_honda/battery.htm Battery Manufacturers Listed By Country http://www.bicycle-power.com/batteries.html |
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Found an interesting op-ed piece about the rush to be "green" Blarney
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Mar 17, 2008 4:36 am) The fact that 50% of our energy is generated by burning coal is a problem that needs to be addressed but it is not a problem that EVs created. Certainly recharging EVs would aggravate this problem if we choose not to transition from coal. We use coal because it is cheap and plentiful. In this country we will sacrifice the environment if the price is right. That mentality will continue to apply when it comes to using coal to power our EVs. If it is wrong to use coal to recharge an EV then it is also wrong to use coal to power our clothes dryers, light our homes, heat/cool our homes, etc.. At least in the case of EVs you are trading one form of pollution for another. Unless all of your electricity comes from the dirtiest coal power plants you won't actually be creating more pollution. So from the "green" perspective it could be argued that there is no major benefit. However there is another, potentially more important, issue here. Our dependence on foreign oil and all the negative consequences that entails. The potential for EVs to reduce oil consumption is significant and indisputable.
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Replying to: tpe (Mar 17, 2008 2:58 pm) My bet, though, is on compressed air. Essentially you're using the same electricity as the EV to charge the thing up, just you're charging it with a compressor instead of an inverter. This at least saves the cost and damage of the batteries to the environment. Plus, you could have an on-board compressor as well powered off of a solar panel on the roof if you wanted to extend your range a bit. It's not as sexy as hybrids or fuel cells, but it's the most viable option long-term that I have heard of for passenger vehicles.
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Replying to: plekto (Mar 18, 2008 11:10 am) Regarding the use of compressed air; I believe I've read that it takes quite a bit more electricity to travel a comparable distance due to the inefficiency of existing air compressors. But, perhaps this could change if it's something that get's sufficient attention. I've also read that several of the newer battery technologies are much better for the environment due to their being non-toxic and/or recylable. I'm certainly looking forward to a reduction in gas usage, however it happens. |
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Zap is ZAPPED ZAP appears to be a joke.
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Replying to: larsb (Mar 31, 2008 10:10 am) But the article is right. They are responsible for a lot of damage. Their stunts with DC alone resulted in the Smart Car being delayed a full year or more. They appear good in the press, but they just don't seem to bother to actually get in the shop and build the vehicles. |
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Replying to: larsb (Mar 31, 2008 10:10 am) In spite of all this, the pair now running the company, Starr and CEO Steve Schneider, enjoy lucrative employment packages that have made them millions. Their compensation — and ZAP's continued existence as a business — heavily depends on the continual issuance of new stock shares. And although ZAP has earned an annual profit only once in its 16 years of existence This is the guy that took us for a test drive in the Xebra. You gotta feel for the ones that have gotten suckered into the "Green movement" "They tug at your heartstrings," says Joseph Gottlieb, a ZAP dealer from the San Diego area who has filed an official complaint against ZAP with the Securities and Exchange Commission. "If ZAP was in any other business, the company would have been dead long ago. But they keep taking advantage of how much environmentalists — like me — want to see electric cars come to market." I wonder if it is too late to sell my ZAP stock 
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