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#1616 of 1625 Re: Will BMW be the first with an EV in the USA? [tpe]
Jul 23, 2008 (8:14 am)
I would like an EV for running errands. Never having to go to a gas station would be great. Just plug that puppy in. That said my practical side always gets involved in my decisions. I do not do things to be green or blue or any other color. I spend money on something I like or need with my personal pleasure and comfort first and foremost. Well actually my wife's comfort. When they start tossing out numbers like $38k and up I start to lose interest real fast. I would have NEVER bought this Sequoia if it was not $5000 under invoice. I just do not waste my cash to be an early adopter.
Now that Mini EV may be an exception for me. Probably not though.
#1617 of 1625 Re: Um, 480 volts? [reddroverr]
Oct 05, 2008 (2:53 am)
Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. You can get 240 volts because you have two 120 volt legs that are 120 volts relative to neutral (which is usually at ground potential) and 180 degrees out of phase with each other.
You've only got those two legs; using more slots on the breaker box won't give you any more voltage. You'll need a step-up transformer or an electronic voltage multiplier to get voltages higher than 240 volts. Transformers at that power level are going to be heavy, bulky, and expensive, and a voltage multiplier with that current level would require some pretty hefty capacitors.
Other methods are possible such as chopping into high frequency AC, say 40 Khz or something, and then using a transformer operating at that higher frequency. The higher the frequency, the less copper is required, but then you start getting higher hysteresis losses in the core so it's a trade-off.
Nov 12, 2008 (6:00 pm)
Well, I think that EV proponents may tend to gloss over the infrastructure changes needed if we all of a sudden found most of our fleet being comprised of EV's
Not that it can't be done, but it's not going to be like flipping a switch! (pun intended)
Nov 13, 2008 (3:15 am)
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#1621 of 1625 480 volts for Phoenix
Aug 22, 2009 (12:26 pm)
Perhaps part of the problems the Phoenix has had is that they don't address the power options. As I recall, it was quite a while ago in response to my specific question, that the "show and tell" folks said that there was an "adaptor" that would allow using home power to recharge, it just took proportionately longer.
The ride was "sporty" in nature. I guessed in response to the heavier battery load on the suspension. My old bones like a softer ride. My '98 K1500 rode smoother. Perhaps a different spring-rate.
Still, a lot of dollars for the privilege to embarrass the hot-rodders like my '62 Comet with a 351 stuffed in it. That was a different time and a different topic...
#1623 of 1625 Re: Electric - too good to be true?
Sep 18, 2012 (6:42 pm)
Well, here it is 5 years after the discussion started. And EV's are taking hold! The i-MiEV that was referred to above as starting in 2009, DID. Mitsubishi created them for the Japanese market. It's now late 2012 and the Mitsubishi i-MiEV is available for sale in other markets including Australia, Canada, Denmark, Estonia, France, Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Switzerland, UK, and US. It's amusing that when a car is rumored to have a sticker price of $45,000 people said that was too high. But if it was around $30,000 they would be in line to buy one. Now that the reality is a sticker price around $30,000 people (not sure if it's the same ones or not) are saying if it cost $20,000 they would get one. Well, I thought the sticker price was reasonable and I bought one. It does help that there is a $7500 federal tax credit and a $3000 IL state rebate. (So maybe I fall in with the $20,000 crowd after all.)
#1624 of 1625 Volvo has finally pulled its finger out with electric car tech
Oct 17, 2013 (2:22 am)
#1625 of 1625 Volvo has finally pulled its finger out with electric car tech
Oct 17, 2013 (2:22 am)
i've seen reports today that http://bit.ly/16cN5kD have been part of a project to improve electric cars. It looks promising their using the car's body panels as a battery! that will save space and provide more power
.. just what i like to hear..
Anyone else think it's a great idea?