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#555 of 620 Gas Leak Problem
Oct 07, 2007 (6:57 pm)
I leased a 2007 TL Type-S at the beginning of September and have less than 1,000 miles so far. Unfortunately, about 2 weeks and 300 miles after I got it I noticed gas was pouring out from under the car on day. I had the car towed and the dealership said there was a cut in the high pressure fuel line. They didn't know the cause but replaced the line (or so I am told).
Now I go to get in the car yesterday and after starting it up my wife tells me gas is pouring out again. I turn off the car, pull my son out and call Acura TLC to have the car towed again!
At this point I refuse to take back the car. This isn't some silly rattle or door closing problem it is a death risk! Questions for those out there...
1) Have any of you heard of this issue (I assume it is simply a manufacturing flaw...hopefully limited to a couple cars)?
2) Any advice on what to do? One cigarette butt from a neighboring car tossed out the window at a red light and I am dead. I don't know how the lemon laws apply, but I sure as heck am not about to give them a couple more tries with the fear that the next time I don't catch the leak in my driveway. (I just finished the first month of a 36mo lease)
I love Acura/Honda, I have a MDX and my previous car was a 2004 TL (and before that an Accord). This event makes me want to run for the hills. Thoughts?
#556 of 620 Re: Gas Leak Problem [fulerweg]
Oct 08, 2007 (5:46 am)
Well a cigarette but won't actually ignite gas. You can throw a lit cigarette right into a pool of gasoline and it probably won't ignite.
That is besides the point though as this is still dangerous. Call up Acura's customer care center or whatever they call it. Tell the person who answers the phone the story and when they try to down play it ask for the highest level person available at the time. Tell them what happened and just keep telling them. We had this happen to a LR3 several years ago and the guy called the fire department to his house. One or two calls to Land Rover and they took the car back very quickly.
#557 of 620 Re: Gas Leak Problem [fulerweg]
Oct 09, 2007 (10:07 am)
Unfortunately, about 2 weeks and 300 miles after I got it I noticed gas was pouring out from under the car on day.
Define "pouring". I once had a cut/break in my fuel line and it only dripped. And, if I'm not mistaken, the fuel pump had some sort of automatic shutoff in the event a leak was detected.
It sounds to me like your dealer blew the original diagnosis and/or did a poor job of fixing it. But I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater just yet. If there is a visible leak that is "puring" gas, it should be pretty easy for them to fix or replace the fuel line system completely.
#558 of 620 Re: Gas Leak Problem [british_rover]
Oct 09, 2007 (11:05 am)
"You can throw a lit cigarette right into a pool of gasoline and it probably won't ignite."
So I should be able to safely ignore all those signs at the gas stations and light one up while I'm re-fueling?
#559 of 620 Re: Gas Leak Problem [bodble2]
Oct 09, 2007 (11:23 am)
Um, if you decide to do that, hope you
can will let us know how it works out.
#560 of 620 Re: Gas Leak Problem [pat]
Oct 09, 2007 (11:36 am)
lol....no, I don't think I will try that experiment despite what british_rover said!
#561 of 620 Re: Gas Leak Problem [bodble2]
Oct 09, 2007 (1:09 pm)
No offense br, it just seems like a pretty scary thing to contemplate!
#562 of 620 Re: Gas Leak Problem [pat]
Oct 09, 2007 (7:42 pm)
I'm with you on that, pat! It's just that what british_rover said seems to fly in the face of what I thought was undisputed fact. (Or maybe he was just being facetious and I misunderstood).
#563 of 620 Re: Gas Leak Problem [bodble2]
Oct 10, 2007 (6:42 am)
No its true a lit cigarette probably won't ignite a pool of gasoline. I wouldn't try it myself and advise against it but most likely the lit end of the cig will miss the fumes and be smothered by the liquid gas when it hits the surface.
My college roommates Uncle, and yes I know that makes it sound like an urban legend, used to do this trick all the time. He was an old school race car driver that raced in the IMCA series and I remember him doing this at his shop quite a few times.
They used it as a kind of hazing ritual for the new guys on the team. He said 9 times out of 10 the gasoline would not ignite. Still a 10 percent chance is a 10 percent chance so I wouldn't risk it. I guess the conditions really need to be ideal for the gasoline to ignite.
#564 of 620 Re: Gas Leak Problem [british_rover]
Oct 10, 2007 (10:17 am)
You know, I think probably the hosts have a responsibility to test this out to either debunk or confirm your theory once and for all, since all members are no doubt keenly interested in the results! And afterall, it's only a 10% chance!