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Acura TL, Sedan
#235 of 620 Re: 2007 A-SPEC planned? [ggesq]
Nov 02, 2006 (3:15 pm)
"I have read that Acura will be offering an A-SPEC package for the TL-S w/ 19' wheels!"
I suspect you meant to say 19" not 19'. But either way, that is just plain nuts.
My former 2002 Honda S2000 with 16" wheels and tires outhandled a base Boxster with 17" wheels and a BMW M Roadster with 18" wheels. But one could remove the tires of a RWD BMW 335i and ride it on the rims and it would outhandle a FWD TL with 19" wheels.
Oh well, I guess Acura is now catering to the image over substance customer. Maybe I should get a set of 22" rims for our MDX.
#236 of 620 Re: 2007 A-SPEC planned? [habitat1]
Nov 02, 2006 (3:36 pm)
WHY in the world did you buy a TL w/ a manual tranny?
I bought mine because it was a good blend of performance, luxury, technology and value- NOT because it would out handle or beat the 3er, IS, G and everything else under the sun on a track.
I stopped driving cars like it was stolen about 15 years ago. Whenever I see people drive like that the word "jackass" comes to mind because it's unsafe- bottom line.
The TL has plenty of "substance" and most people who buy the A-SPEC model want that "look" and 19" rims only further cater to those tastes.
If you want 22"s on your MDX- knock yourself out.
#237 of 620 Re: 2007 A-SPEC planned? [ggesq]
Nov 03, 2006 (5:33 am)
I bought my TL 6-speed for exactly the same reasons as you - good blend of performance, luxury, technology and value. And I'm very happy with it - for what it is.
So excuse me, but when I see Acura offering - and some people buying 19" wheels on a FWD family sedan - a similar word comes to mind for me. Or maybe more diplomatically, "sucker". The summer tires that came with my 6-speed lasted 17,000 miles with me driving it like a family sedan. That's less than I got out of my Honda S2000 (16") and probably less than I'll get out of our 911 (19"), although I still didn't/don't play Mario Andretti with either.
So if someone wants the "look" of 19" wheels on a TL, I'll agree that that's their perogative. I'd ask that you agree to show no sympathy when they post a complaint that they need new $300+ 30-series W-rated tires in 6,000 miles because of front plowing wear and other issues that Dr. Porsche or Enzo Ferrari wouldn't be able to overcome in a 62/38 weighted FWD family sedan.
The TL does indeed have a lot of "substance" and I apologize for my excessive criticism of their catering to the image demographic. But I know it's not an M5. And I'm too old to embarass myself trying to get it to "look" like one. Sometimes less is more, if you get my drift.
#238 of 620 Re: 2007 A-SPEC planned? [habitat1]
Nov 03, 2006 (5:48 am)
"I'd ask that you agree to show no sympathy when they post a complaint that they need new $300+ 30-series W-rated tires in 6,000 miles because of front plowing wear and other issues that Dr. Porsche or Enzo Ferrari wouldn't be able to overcome in a 62/38 weighted FWD family sedan."
Agreed. I will speculate that those who choose to put 19" or greater size rims matched with low profile tires will definately be from a younger breed without having high expectations of extended tread wear.
"But I know it's not an M5. And I'm too old to embarass myself trying to get it to "look" like one."
"Sometimes less is more, if you get my drift."
Agreed as well but different strokes for different folks...
#239 of 620 Re: TLS Review [vroom5]
Nov 03, 2006 (9:10 am)
I bought my TL-S on Tuesday. The car drives very well. I have driven a BMW since 1997, and taken 2 BMW's to the race track for a couple weekends of learning how to race (Road America in Wisconsin). There is no question in my mind that the TL-S handles just as well as the BMW's. I could barely tell it is FWD (unlike when I drive a Maxima). I am sure there are differences when going around a turn at 50 MPH, but for most of my driving now, the car is a fun ride, and handles as well as I will need. I am hoping to take it out on the track next summer and see how it performs there.
Only thing I would change is to make the call AWD or RWD (although RWD may not be good in Chicago). I like the navigation system, and how everything is integrated, and love the ride. I was really worried I was taking a step down from my previous car, but after a few days, don't worry about that anymore.
#240 of 620 Re: 2007 A-SPEC planned? [habitat1]
Nov 03, 2006 (7:52 pm)
"I bought my TL 6-speed for exactly the same reasons as you - good blend of performance, luxury, technology and value..."
Ahem. I believe that you forgot to mention the TL's fabulous exterior styling and handsomely functional interior!
#241 of 620 TLS Wheel Damage
Nov 03, 2006 (10:05 pm)
I love driving my new TLS, but after only a week with the car, I just noticed highly visible scrape marks on one of my wheels. I've been careful and don't recall hitting a curb. The rubber isn't even marked, but the smokey paint/finish on the wheels scraped off and it looks terrible. Anyone know how this can be repaired? Are these rims are coated with a paint or something else? Anyone else scrape their wheels?
#242 of 620 Acura TL-S vs Audi A4
Nov 05, 2006 (10:44 pm)
I'd like to hear from anyone having moved from an A4 to a TL-S, in particular about experiences going from AWD to FWD.
#243 of 620 Re: TLS Wheel Damage [vroom5]
Nov 06, 2006 (6:20 am)
I knew those painted wheels would be an issue
I hate painted wheels...
I'd love to see anodized wheels, but painting them makes no sense at all.
Any idea if you can get touchup paint from Acura for the wheels?