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#242 of 382 2005 V70 Service question
Jan 23, 2009 (6:40 am)
I bought a 2005 V70 wagon 3 weeks ago! Carfax report showed no problems and the regular service/checkup at 60,000. The car had 70,000 when I bought it. I just started noticing that it seems to have trouble shifting around 40mph - not bad, just like it could not decide if it wanted to use 2nd or 3rd gear....Took it to a Volvo dealer and was told the transmission had "an internal failure, there was no service available, could not change out fluid, etc and we needed a new transmission at about $4500." We decided to just keep driving it until there were more problems, save up the money and fix it when it became absolutely necessary.
Has anyone had similar reports of "internal failure" and is this a reasonable price to pay???
#243 of 382 Re: Weird "jerk" on 2000 V70 [mea2120]
Feb 06, 2009 (3:10 pm)
I've experienced a jerk with my 2001 V70 T5 when accelerating from a stop light especially if I don't release the brake wait a moment and then give it some gas. I have heard it said it is a problem with the torque converter. Any comments?
#244 of 382 Re: It was not the tranny on my 01 XC V70 [rockginxc]
Feb 06, 2009 (10:26 pm)
"I would get the transmission control module replace ASAP"
all firmware upgrades on the car are up to date, I had it to 3 dealers.
what do you call a "transmission control module"?? are you sure such part exist?
and what is VIDA? is it same as ODB II?
ODB II doesn't show any error codes.
I did computer diagnostics once, a couple of years ago (before the problem with the tranny started). for about a hundred bucks I got like 12 pages of printouts. they were useless, there were warnings like "door sensor is not sending signal" etc. may be that was the VIDA thing. but I doubt it would report solenoid problems if
"You may also want to have the throttle control module replaced as well if you find the car lurching forward as you're coming to a stop."
no, my tranny doesn't have any problems downshifting, or when coming to stop.
the jerk is only when it goes upshift from 2nd to 3rd.
#245 of 382 Re: 2005 V70 Service question [dsroberts]
Feb 06, 2009 (10:55 pm)
welcome to the club!
you are not alone.
I think you have exactly same problem as I do.
my 2001 XC70 started jerking at around 80k. upshifting from 2nd to 3rd gear, which is usually at around 40mph as you stated.
I had this problem for more than 2 years now, and it's not going away nor getting worse. so just prepare to live with it.
if you find the solution to the problem, be sure to let me know
#246 of 382 Re: 60K service [fedlawman]
Feb 18, 2009 (10:30 pm)
how did you know to use Mobile ATF 3309? are you confident this is the same as the Volvo fluid? I have a 2001 V70 and I am told the Mobile JWS 3309 is required, and even then, I'm reading that its not 100% synthetic - its a blend. ugh! I really want to buy the fluid myself, but I am so concerned about buying the wrong type. Anybody know for sure??
#247 of 382 Mobile ATF 3309
Feb 19, 2009 (10:36 am)
This Mobile site makes it pretty clear what the application is for Mobile ATF 3309:
Meets key OEM requirements:
For many Toyota, Lexus, Volvo, Saturn, VW and other imported and domestic vehicles where Aisin transmissions are used.
Meets key Type T-IV for Toyota/Lexus vehicles
Mobil ATF 3309 is recommended for use in transmissions made by Aisin AW requiring a fluid approved against Type T-IV, JWS 3309, GM 9986195 and Audi G-052-025-A2. These Aisin AW transmissions are used in CERTAIN domestic and foreign vehicles, including Toyota, Lexus, Audi, Saturn, Ford, Volvo, Volkswagen, Saab, Porsche, and Mitsubishi.
The unique formulation of Mobil ATF 3309 is designed to provide excellent lubrication of transmissions in specified Aisin AW slip-controlled lock-up automatic transmissions. These outstanding performance capabilities translate into significant operational benefits. . .
Mobile ATF 3309 might actually work better in the Aisin trannys used in the Volvos than the Mobile 1 ATF. Although 3309 might have to be replaced more often than the Volvo fluid.
#248 of 382 Re: 60K service [sheraotwp]
Feb 19, 2009 (4:29 pm)
Arlene, JWS 3309 is the "specification" of the oil to be used in these Aisin transmissions. Any oil that meets this spec is safe to use.
The Volvo brand JWS 3309 oil is very expensive, so the alternative is to purchase the Mobil 3309 over the internet (which is what I did), or you could see how much your local Ford, GM, or Toyota dealer sells it for.
IPD sells it by the case: http://www.ipdusa.com/product.asp?strParents=&CAT_ID=0&P_ID=1997&strPageHistory=- - search&numSearchStartRecord=1.
You can get it for less money here (I've heard of them, but have never done business with them): http://www.avlube.com/mobilatf3309.html.
One thing I would check - I drive a company-owned Ford Taurus and have it serviced at the local Ford dealer's "quick lube" bay. They offer a transmission flush service for $120. Last time I was in for an oil change, I asked them if they would flush my Volvo transmission next time around and they said they would. It is definitely worth paying $120 to have them use their machine rather than doing it yourself (It's a relatively straightforward job, but it's messy and tedious work).
If you have a nearby Ford or GM dealership that has a "quick lube" bay, ask them if they'll service your Volvo transmission with their version of 3309 (WSS-M2C924-A). It's the same (or similar) transmission found on the Ford Fusion - should be an easy job for them.
#249 of 382 Re: Mobile ATF 3309 [jim314]
Feb 19, 2009 (4:45 pm)
JWS 3309 is a specification, not a type of oil.
Mobil is a corporation that markets oil. Mobil ATF 3309 is the name of the 100% non-synthetic transmission oil that Mobil markets to specifically meet the JWS 3309 specification.
Aisin not only builds transmissions for Toyota, Aisin is OWNED by Toyota.
Toyota Type-IV, Mobil ATF 3309, Ford XT-8-QAW, GM 9986195, Volvo 1161540, Audi G-052-025-A2, etc. are all the same spec oil.
Clear as mud...
#250 of 382 Re: Mobile ATF 3309 [fedlawman]
Feb 19, 2009 (11:36 pm)
you guys ROCK for sticking with me on this thread. hey, I'm just a girl, trying to not be taken advantage of by the dealer$$. I appreciate the education you are providing, I'm reading it all. you sent me to an older thread that had the following link to Mobil's website. http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Other_Products/Mobil_1_Synthetic_AT- F.aspx
right on the bottle on their website it says: SYNTHETIC
so why do you and some others insist that this is NOT synthetic? the msds sheet for this is dated 2007. Is this the "new" product you speak of? geez, why is this so hard? I just want my car to be safe and happy and not cost a fortune
Can I trust a transmission shop like AAMCO to put in the oil that I bring?
#251 of 382 Re: 60K service [fedlawman]
Feb 19, 2009 (11:48 pm)
fedlawman, thanks for the tips on going to Ford for a trans. flush. Volvo told me that they have to make sure the temp is just right when they add the oil back in, or something like that. Giving the impression that its a very specialized process. how to know?
AAMCO charges $260 (includes ATF), which seems high compared to your Ford dealer. but seems a trans shop should be a good safe bet, right?
p.s. sorry for posting to the wrong thread - this is all new to me!