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Re: Transmission clunking [Nicky_Woo] by fedlawman
Jan 20, 2009 (5:57 am)
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Replying to: Nicky_Woo (Jan 19, 2009 10:35 pm)

The transmission fluid for these cars (JWS 3309 or Toyota T-IV) is mineral based, not synthetic.
 
Don't top off or flush these transmissions with regular or synthetic ATF unless it specifically states it meets JWS 3309 specifications. If you do, you will likely void your warranty and probably ruin your transmission.
 
If you buy a CPO or used car with an Aisin AW transmission that requires this fluid, make sure it's been serviced properly. If it hasn't or you don't know, start saving for a new transmission.
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Re: It was not the tranny on my 01 XC V70 [vengeanceis] by rockginxc
Jan 20, 2009 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: vengeanceis (Nov 21, 2008 10:17 pm)

Your suspension bushing and transmission issue are not related. Since they did a transmission flush at the same time - there may be some correlation there. I would get the transmission control module replace ASAP as well as a firmware upgrade if it hasn't been done already by the dealer. There is a chance that your upshift issue has been going on long enough that the faulty solenoids in your trans. are too far gone and that the trans. needs to be replaced. You may also want to have the throttle control module replaced as well if you find the car lurching forward as you're coming to a stop. Next time you go to the dealer, make sure that they are hooking your car up to their VIDA diagnostic system and request to see the fault codes that are being spit out to back up their claims that you need a new trans. Good luck.
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2005 V70 Service question by dsroberts
Jan 23, 2009 (6:40 am)
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I bought a 2005 V70 wagon 3 weeks ago! Carfax report showed no problems and the regular service/checkup at 60,000. The car had 70,000 when I bought it. I just started noticing that it seems to have trouble shifting around 40mph - not bad, just like it could not decide if it wanted to use 2nd or 3rd gear....Took it to a Volvo dealer and was told the transmission had "an internal failure, there was no service available, could not change out fluid, etc and we needed a new transmission at about $4500." We decided to just keep driving it until there were more problems, save up the money and fix it when it became absolutely necessary.
Has anyone had similar reports of "internal failure" and is this a reasonable price to pay???
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Re: Weird "jerk" on 2000 V70 [mea2120] by jmar2
Feb 06, 2009 (3:10 pm)
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Replying to: mea2120 (Jul 13, 2006 5:27 am)

I've experienced a jerk with my 2001 V70 T5 when accelerating from a stop light especially if I don't release the brake wait a moment and then give it some gas. I have heard it said it is a problem with the torque converter. Any comments?
J
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Re: It was not the tranny on my 01 XC V70 [rockginxc] by vengeanceis
Feb 06, 2009 (10:26 pm)
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Replying to: rockginxc (Jan 20, 2009 7:17 am)

"I would get the transmission control module replace ASAP"
all firmware upgrades on the car are up to date, I had it to 3 dealers.
what do you call a "transmission control module"?? are you sure such part exist?
 
and what is VIDA? is it same as ODB II?
ODB II doesn't show any error codes.
I did computer diagnostics once, a couple of years ago (before the problem with the tranny started). for about a hundred bucks I got like 12 pages of printouts. they were useless, there were warnings like "door sensor is not sending signal" etc. may be that was the VIDA thing. but I doubt it would report solenoid problems if
they exist.
 
"You may also want to have the throttle control module replaced as well if you find the car lurching forward as you're coming to a stop."
no, my tranny doesn't have any problems downshifting, or when coming to stop.
the jerk is only when it goes upshift from 2nd to 3rd.
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Re: 2005 V70 Service question [dsroberts] by vengeanceis
Feb 06, 2009 (10:55 pm)
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Replying to: dsroberts (Jan 23, 2009 6:40 am)

welcome to the club!
you are not alone.
 
I think you have exactly same problem as I do.
my 2001 XC70 started jerking at around 80k. upshifting from 2nd to 3rd gear, which is usually at around 40mph as you stated.
I had this problem for more than 2 years now, and it's not going away nor getting worse. so just prepare to live with it.
 
if you find the solution to the problem, be sure to let me know
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Re: 60K service [fedlawman] by sheraotwp
Feb 18, 2009 (10:30 pm)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Dec 26, 2007 10:18 am)

how did you know to use Mobile ATF 3309? are you confident this is the same as the Volvo fluid? I have a 2001 V70 and I am told the Mobile JWS 3309 is required, and even then, I'm reading that its not 100% synthetic - its a blend. ugh! I really want to buy the fluid myself, but I am so concerned about buying the wrong type. Anybody know for sure??
Arlene
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Mobile ATF 3309 by jim314
Feb 19, 2009 (10:36 am)
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This Mobile site makes it pretty clear what the application is for Mobile ATF 3309:
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Other_Products/Mobil_ATF_3309.aspx
 
Meets key OEM requirements:
  
For many Toyota, Lexus, Volvo, Saturn, VW and other imported and domestic vehicles where Aisin transmissions are used.
  
Meets key Type T-IV for Toyota/Lexus vehicles
  
Mobil ATF 3309 is recommended for use in transmissions made by Aisin AW requiring a fluid approved against Type T-IV, JWS 3309, GM 9986195 and Audi G-052-025-A2. These Aisin AW transmissions are used in CERTAIN domestic and foreign vehicles, including Toyota, Lexus, Audi, Saturn, Ford, Volvo, Volkswagen, Saab, Porsche, and Mitsubishi.
  
The unique formulation of Mobil ATF 3309 is designed to provide excellent lubrication of transmissions in specified Aisin AW slip-controlled lock-up automatic transmissions. These outstanding performance capabilities translate into significant operational benefits. . .
 
Mobile ATF 3309 might actually work better in the Aisin trannys used in the Volvos than the Mobile 1 ATF. Although 3309 might have to be replaced more often than the Volvo fluid.
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Re: 60K service [sheraotwp] by fedlawman
Feb 19, 2009 (4:29 pm)
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Replying to: sheraotwp (Feb 18, 2009 10:30 pm)

Arlene, JWS 3309 is the "specification" of the oil to be used in these Aisin transmissions. Any oil that meets this spec is safe to use.
 
The Volvo brand JWS 3309 oil is very expensive, so the alternative is to purchase the Mobil 3309 over the internet (which is what I did), or you could see how much your local Ford, GM, or Toyota dealer sells it for.
 
IPD sells it by the case: http://www.ipdusa.com/product.asp?strParents=&CAT_ID=0&P_ID=1997&strPageHistory=- - search&numSearchStartRecord=1.
 
You can get it for less money here (I've heard of them, but have never done business with them): http://www.avlube.com/mobilatf3309.html.
 
One thing I would check - I drive a company-owned Ford Taurus and have it serviced at the local Ford dealer's "quick lube" bay. They offer a transmission flush service for $120. Last time I was in for an oil change, I asked them if they would flush my Volvo transmission next time around and they said they would. It is definitely worth paying $120 to have them use their machine rather than doing it yourself (It's a relatively straightforward job, but it's messy and tedious work).
 
If you have a nearby Ford or GM dealership that has a "quick lube" bay, ask them if they'll service your Volvo transmission with their version of 3309 (WSS-M2C924-A). It's the same (or similar) transmission found on the Ford Fusion - should be an easy job for them.
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Re: Mobile ATF 3309 [jim314] by fedlawman
Feb 19, 2009 (4:45 pm)
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Replying to: jim314 (Feb 19, 2009 10:36 am)

JWS 3309 is a specification, not a type of oil.
 
Mobil is a corporation that markets oil. Mobil ATF 3309 is the name of the 100% non-synthetic transmission oil that Mobil markets to specifically meet the JWS 3309 specification.
 
Aisin not only builds transmissions for Toyota, Aisin is OWNED by Toyota.
 
Toyota Type-IV, Mobil ATF 3309, Ford XT-8-QAW, GM 9986195, Volvo 1161540, Audi G-052-025-A2, etc. are all the same spec oil.
 
Clear as mud...

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