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#227 of 249 2004 Kia Sedona Starting Problems.
by gxpky
May 11, 2012 (4:48 am)
I know this will probably sound repetitive but here's my problem. Starts sporadically, cranks and turns over fine...seems like it is flooding because if you finally get it started after trying and failing there is a strong smell of gas. The first time it had trouble starting the check engine light came on...had it checked out but had no codes show. The van is still low miles only 85,000 on an '04 Kia sedona, purchased it with 54,000 miles on it. As with most people it will never fail to start if you take it to get it checked out....soooo annoying.
Codes showing yesterday when I took it to auto zone are as follows: PO181, PO128, and PO118.
Anyone know where I should start?
#228 of 249 Re: 2004 Kia Sedona Starting Problems. [gxpky]
by sedonakill_ia
May 27, 2012 (5:04 pm)
I have an 05 with all the same symptoms. I even went as far as to replace the fuel pump, spark plugs, and belts. Fail!!! Big time. If all else fails, I have unplugged my mass air flow sensor and I haven't had any noticeable problems with the way it runs. But there is still a strong smell of gas when its idle. I'm sure this is not the correct way to fix it, but KIA left us with a mysterious problem with an incorrect product so what exactly is "correct" in this case? I did that because, it seems to run fine when I unplug it but as soon as I plug it back in, it stalls. I'm sure I'm on to something here, but this is a temporary fix which could lead to more issues. I have a very run down Sedona so I am willing to experiment. Please let me know how your situation turned out.
#229 of 249 Shame on Kia
by avroom
May 28, 2012 (7:14 pm)
I just bought a 04 Sedona with 114000 km. Seems Kia couldn't fix it and the owner had to sell it for something else. Then Kia sold the van without fixing it and I ended up with it. It had a few problems. A leaking oil pan so I had to replace it and 4 litres of oil. A squeeky fan belt that was replaced but turned up loose 30000 kms later with a damaged idler pulley. The stalling became apparent on hot days. It would restart a half hour or so later. I drove it and it stalled just before a bridge upramp. Had to tow it and Kia got it started a couple of hours later but as it kept sputtering out they discovered the connection between the fuse and pump was suspect (0volts)so they rewired it temporarily to the heater fan. I still have to resolve a front brake probem. The original owner said the pump was changed because? Good luck to all.
#230 of 249 additional info
by avroom
May 28, 2012 (8:29 pm)
I just want to add I am not certain where the voltage fault was. Anyways pump voltage was 0volts with ignition on.
#231 of 249 2005 kia sedona wont start
by guidoj
Jun 04, 2012 (4:58 pm)
I too own a 2005 Kia Sedona and am experiencing problems. My van all of a sudden stopped working. everything was fine, the next minute all lights and radio working... but no power to the starter. when this occurred, I waited 24 hours and it started again. I read blogs regarding fuse box / junction, thinking that this may have been the problem.......it was'nt. I still get power to all electrical components, but not to starter... any other suggestions?
#232 of 249 2005 kia sedona wont start
by guidoj
Jun 04, 2012 (8:37 pm)
Hello all, I am new to this community, and feel everyone's frustration. I have June 04 kia sedona ex, I bought in Sept. ' 06 to present June 2012. I have experienced 4 front lights burn out within a year ( the idiot who assembled the front light assembly...should be given a swift kick ....you know where), new battery and radiator in Jan. 2011, and now.......
two weeks ago van would NOT START. Power is fine, bells and whistles.. check! The Darn thing just WON'T SUPPLY POWER TO STARTER...at times...for a three day period..started twice in the morning and is now completely dead. I have read all the horror stories people are having with their SEDONA, and I have to tell myself " Oh..Oh". I have bought and installed a brand new IPM / Kia's ..Block Assy-Junction Box ( Part # OK53W 66730A -$ 18.00), and nothing! Not a thing. Sad to say but ...I will be joining the ranks among you. Any help will be appreciated.
Don't want wife and kids out stranded. I am familiar with cars myself and am stumped on this one. I tried to look under chassis for starter...and found in engine compartment...under engine...( those bastards)....nice place....real nice place..along with transmission too..all rolled up nice and tight. I am thinking... contacts onStarter loose, faulty relays or switches?
Any suggestions are appreciated. Thank You
#233 of 249 Re: 2005 kia sedona wont start [guidoj]
by guidoj
Jun 09, 2012 (11:05 am)
Hello everyone, here is my update with my '05 Sedona. I took my minivan in to a nearby shop and they tested the starter......finding out that the starter was the problem....and the check engine light came on to read that my crank sensor also needed to be replaced. Wow, needless to say that I had the starter replaced and the check engine light reset. No more issues....(crossing my fingers)
#234 of 249 Sharing My 2005 Sedona story
by mary05
Jul 19, 2012 (12:44 pm)
Bought our 05 Sedona about 3 years ago- had just about 70,000 miles on it when we bought it. As I read the owner's manual,I found out that the timing belt should be changed right about the mileage that we bought it. I called the dealer and complained, but of course was told they don't replace things like that to sell them unless they were broken. Sounds legit, right? So we decided to take a trip out west and had everything done"just in case". Had the timing belt, serpentine belt, water pump, coolant system flush, tires, etc. Other than having a few minor issues and having to replace the battery, it's been pretty reliable the past 3 years. 2 weeks ago, which is ONLY 42,000 miles since all that work was done, I was driving in a parking lot when everything just shut off. The mechanic says the tension pulley to the water pump broke, the pump broke, and the timing belt got frayed. However, since the engine is an "interefrence" engine, it means that since the water pump broke and timing belt got frayed, it damaged the engine to the point that we need another engine! We only had 114,000 miles on it- PLUS all that stuff was replaced 42,000 miles ago! We were then informed that, unfortunately with these "interference" engines, known in layman's terms as "motor wreckers", you have to replace all the belts and pumps BEFORE they fray or break, because when they do, they damage and bend rods, pistons, etc. When I pointed out that they were replaced already, he said it must have just been a "flukey" thing. Apparently, the interference engines are the auto industry's answer to getting better fuel efficiency and they let the engine breathe better, but the consequences are they are easily damaged. So, question 1: How could the Kia dealer that sold us the van claim, responsibly and ethically, that they don't replace things like that unless they are broken when they (should) know full well that those things MUST be replaced at the recommended intervals because it's too late once they DO break? By the way, don't take MY word for it- google it yourseves about these engines- which most of the industry is using now as consumers are UNAWARE! Question 2: Since we DID have the water pump and timing belt and serpentine belt and everything else replaced at the proper time, shouldn't Kia be liable for the fact that the engine has to be replaced, even though we did the right thing? No, it's not under warranty, but something just isn't right here.
#235 of 249 Re: Sharing My 2005 Sedona story [mary05]
by rellison0267
Jul 24, 2012 (12:11 am)
This interference problem has nothing to do with the belt you say broke and the water pump breaking. The only belt that has anything to do with the "interference" part is the timing belt. Interference means that the pistons are timed so that the valves open up a VERY specific times adn if the timing is off the pistons will run "interference" with your valves. Very unfortunate that this happened to you. Belt should have been replaced at 60,000 per the manufacturer specifications (If I remember right). KIA won't be held responsible because as the owner, you are left holding the peices to have them do the work for you based on your owner's manual recommendations. It sucks, the automotive industry has a ton of gaps for this type of thing. Always follow your owner's manual recommendations. I'm gambling with mine right now. Just passing 100K and I just don't want to do it. I hate working on KIA's and I think they are the "bic" lighters of automobiles meaning they are disposable after they run for so long. Might as well toss it and get another one. Will never buy another KIA again. Sorry to hear of your worries.
#236 of 249 Re: Sharing My 2005 Sedona story [rellison0267]
by mary05
Jul 24, 2012 (8:03 pm)
When we bought it, it already had 70,000 miles on it. Since we were planning a ig trip, we looked in the manual to see when belts should be replaced, etc. When I asked the salesman why they didn't replace our belt at the recommended interval, he said they don't replace them unless they're broken. that sounded legit at the time- but we decided to have it replaced- and the water pump, the tension pulley, serpentine belt, etc- we had all of it done- nothing had broken yet. The point is, that even though we replaced all that stuff, at only a little over 40,000 miles later, the tension pulley to the water pump broke, and the service guy said our timing belt didn't break, but it was "frayed"- he said the it frayed because the tension pulley to the water pump broke and put the strain on the timing belt or something like that because it is an interference engine. He replaced everything, but the engine would no longer hold compression. I also though it was funny- in an irritating way- when I found out to even just replace the spark plugs the manifold had to come off. Sheesh.