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Kia Sedona, Brakes, Van
#67 of 208 Re: 2005 KIA Sedona BRAKE PROBLEMS! [ybirdsfly]
Apr 30, 2007 (5:16 pm)
They are having so many problems with these brakes it is not even funny. We are going on our 6th set of rotors in about 30K miles. KIA will not fix these any longer under any sort of warranty and will be happy to charge for a repair that will only last a few months. They keep telling ma I am the only one with this problem.
I had a short protest in front of my local dealership and it was quite surprising the number of people that stopped with the same issue. Most are just going to sell their vehicle and pass the problem on to someone else. KIA did offer a buy-back for my vehicle b/c I protested, but after a signed deal was exchanged, there was no follow through. The latest message from KIA corporate was asking for a couple of weeks so they can review my information.
KIA needs to stand behind their product.
#68 of 208 Brake Problems- try third party rotors
Apr 30, 2007 (7:44 pm)
I have posted before that I have had excellent service frm my 2002 Sedona brakes, non- ABS.
I suggest you put your energy into buying good third party front rotors and pads and installing them.
You need basic hand tools and a large C Clamp that opens a good 10 inches from Home Depot. This is the gently press the Disc Brake piston back up into the Caliper bore.
This type of brake job takes about 2 hours in your driveway.
There is a pair of screws on the rotors that are tiny and delicate. You need to be able to get the old ones off before you can remove the rotors. I bought them at the dealer for about $ 1 each.
I would shop for your rotors and look at Wagner, Bendix AC DELCO and such as that.
Any pads will do, since you will want to monitor them and replace them at about 25K miles . Then your rotors will last much longer.
There are many cars where the standard service parts are not up to the needs of a customer. You always have to upgrade.
My dad wasnot car savy.
His 1965 Ford Galaxy had bad spark plug wires that never worked right.
The dealer replaced them 6 times with more of the same bad wires.
Finally he traded the car on a Dodge Monaco.
If I had been older I could have saved him many unhappy visits to the Ford dealer.
I put a parts list of all the parts I used in an earlier post.
Once you get your good parts on you will be very pleased.
Also if you are in the MOUUNTAINS you might want the CERAMIC pads and the DRILLED rotors.
Check rock auto dot com and see what you think.
They cost about $ 125 each but if you tow or haul maybe it is worth it.
#69 of 208 Re: Brake Problems- try third party rotors [smulvey]
May 03, 2007 (10:56 am)
I think we get the idea that we will need to replace the brakes. what we are trying to get KIA to understand is that this was a new car I drove mine off the lot with 5 miles on it within 6,000 miles I had to replace brakes. then again at 12,000 and now again at 22,000. 10,000 miles later I have apx 30% of brakes left on the front, because they cannot figure out how to fix the back braking problem. It is not the fact that the brakes do not work, it is that for the time we have them on the car with normal driving they work too hard. The Van is too much weight for the braking system on these cars(2003-2005) to handle. And this is mostly found on the LX. This is why the caliper in the rear doesn't stay calibrated to help adjust the weight when braking.(this comes from a tech)And in return the front brakes work harder to stop the vehicle.(causing heating and warping). KIA tells us that this is not a safety issue. I am here to tell you IT IS a safety issue when my brakes do not work. So, we can by good third party brakes but if we do not solve the problem in the rear the front will always be over worked. This would be why they put 4 wheel disc brakes on the 2006 vans because they knew this was a problem in the 2003-2005 vans. So all of you who have been told they have not heard of the problem and were not aware of this, I ask, Why were the brakes changed in 2006??? and no, I do not work for Kia I am a consumer with the same problem and doing a lot of research on how the van was made. Put this back to KIA and see how they react.
#70 of 208 2005 Sedona Groaning Brake Problem Dealer Can't Find
May 03, 2007 (2:53 pm)
Starting around November 2006 and at about 9500 miles our 2005 Sedona's brakes started making a loud groaning noise when stopping from around 20 mph. It was internittent at first, but gre int happening every time we braked. The groan is the loudest right before the van comes to a complete stop. A few times it felt as if the van was not going to stop, and letting up on the pedal in the slightest bit would lett the van move forward significantly. We took it to our local dealer with 12227 miles on it, and they said they inspected it and test drove it and found nothing wrong with it. I asked them about the Kia TSB# KT2007042401, and if they had accomlished it. They said if the technician finds nothing wrong in the techs opinion, they do not check for TSB's. The TSB does state,"In the event thata a customer reports this condition both the front brake pads and discs SHOULD be replaced with new parts". Needless to say this did not happen. They say at the dealership that Kia does not dictate how the vehicle repairs should be done. I picked the vehicle up leary of their response. I tried 10 stops and thought it was OK, with no groaning noise. my wife and I then went to dinner and when we left less than an hour later, during my first stop, the groaning noise was back. It is like it was when it first started last year, and happens about 50% of the time. We own and tow a pop-up camper, that is why we bought this van, as we were told it is the perfect van for it. I am now very hessitent about towing anything with this vehicle, let alone drive it in thick traffic. Someone needs to make Kia wake up and realize the brakes on the 2005 Sedona need to be recalled, and also have Kia redeucate the service departments on TSB's.
#71 of 208 2003 Kia Sedona Surge problemand more
May 03, 2007 (3:24 pm)
We purchased a new Kia Sedona. We have had intermitted problems with it. The engine surges and acts as if the acceleration is locked. We've taken it to the dealership several times and they can't find the problem. Last Thursday while at a stop sign, this happened. I lifted my foot of the break to roll forward a little (like you do at a stop sign) and the engine surged and I immediately applied the brake but the car didn't stop! I hit the car in front of me. Thankfully, it was a car I hit and not the large group of 50+ Junior High School students that usually cross in front of me. The car has been at the dealer since last Friday and they can't find the problem. This problem has caused the brakes to wear prematurely. I also have had a problem with my horn not working all the time. Of course, the dealership can't find the problems. I've had the recall work done on the acceleration cable. The dealership changed out the cruise control in hopes that would fix the problem but still... there is this occasional surge! I am scared to drive the car! The dealership is taking this last incident more seriously but still, I don't know what they are going to do about it. I have a documented history of this problem (although the service department didn't note every time a reported this problem there are at least 4 notations). Coorporate office has been contacted and I am hoping they will handle this situation appropriately.
Love teh design but this problem needs to be investigated and corrected as it's a mechanical design flaw.
#72 of 208 CALL NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION
May 04, 2007 (11:13 am)
if we can get more on this, I have an adjustor on my case I have filed a formal complaint. By putting this action in motion we can hopefully accomplish a recall. You can also go on the web site and look at other people that have had the same complaint. You are not the only one out here. You can put your complaint in as a phone call or a written on the web page. www.nhtsa.dot.gov/hotline or call 1-888-327-4236CALL,CALL,CALL,CALL,CALL,CALL,CALL,CALL,CALL. I can only speak for myself and I truly have a lemon.
#73 of 208 I called!!!!
May 07, 2007 (7:14 am)
I called National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Last Week!!!!!! See my previous post. Horrible Loud Groaning Rear Brake Noise since 13,000 Miles. I have 61,000miles on my van now and the noise is worse!!! Love to talk to people with same problem!! I love my van- 2004 EX but it has been in the shop 8 times- can not find anything wrong!! I am burnt out dealing with this brake issue.
#74 of 208 attn:Krea-Sedona Brake Problems-Rear system
May 08, 2007 (6:59 am)
Yes-Your Rear brakes do 20 % of the work in an unloaded
Your fronts do 80% of the stopping. These numbers are the
generally accepted proportions in the industry. My van has rear DRUM Brakes so my experience is different.
Almost EVERY car I have seen with rear disc brakes has STINKY real world results. Maybe they work good on the test track but they stink in the real world. I base this on 100s of thousands of miles of service experience on Chevy Luminas, Dodge Intrepids and others.
At this point if you like the van you should take it to a real brake shop and have them develop and approach to the problem.
Maybe there is a" proportioning valve " that can be adjusted or maybe if you carry a 50 pound bag of SAND in the cargo space it will settle the rear more so the rear brakes can do more work. My van has a switch on the frame with brake lines on it and it senses the weight over the rear wheels and increase braking I think when I have weight there.
I bought a fiberglass storage box at Pep Boys that is narrow and sturdy and I keep a bunch of stuff in there and maybe that is helping my braking.
It is a known fact that station wagons always stopped in a shorter distance when slightly loaded than when fully empty.
Also - since you are in this situation- there is a driving monitor the kids buy for hot rodding that shows your accel and deccel rates. Maybe you could get one of these to record your driving style and further your case with KIA.
If I was as unhappy with you I would write to Car and Drive or Consumer Reports and volunteer to do a expose' on the problem and see what they think.
Len Hunt a Kia VP will be on Edmunds Wed at 6 PM for a live chat.
You might want to set aside that time to ask he send you a development engineer to fix the existing product before he designs a " new improved" product.
#75 of 208 Sedona Brake Problems [smulvey]
May 27, 2007 (5:27 pm)
Kia is aware of the problems with brakes, however, they do not have a fix for the problem. We had a two day protest in front of our local dealership so that Corporate would take our calls. Six weeks later we had a buy-back and a Chevy Trail Blazer. You MUST get their attention. They will be happy to let you go with a lawyer and drag it our over 9-15 months. I'll be happy to share more info.
There is no "standard" as to how long Rotors should last, this is why they will fight your claims to them wearing our prematurely. We had 6 sets of rotors in 30K miles. Kia was okay with this until we publically called attention to the problem. A buy-back was negotiated in a couple days and closed in 6 weeks.
#76 of 208 Re: I called!!!! [jbauti]
Jun 27, 2007 (7:20 am)
We have a 2004 Sedona EX and also love it. We have experienced the loud groaning noise when braking from a few thousand miles after buying it new, however, the noise has come and gone and wasn't bad until after having the car about a year. In the last couple of years when we drive out of the Phoenix valley to places like the southeast, midwest, or even recently Albequerque the noise has become almost deafening. I am embarrassed to stop in traffic with such a loud noise. But then we returned to Phoenix and it just about went away. I can barely hear it still but not enough to demonstrate how it sounded on our recent trip to the service tech. We took it to a dealership (not the one I bought it from) and they were nice enough to clean and adjust the rear brakes and reported the presence of rust but didn't charge us. They maintain they never heard of the problem. Just after purchasing the van when the noise just started , but wasn't too bad, I reported it to the dealership where we bought the van and one of the servicemen said it was a design problem and they couldn't do anything about it. At that time the noise was bearable. I now have 46K and am hesitating about putting money into it for tires and some other routine maintenance.