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Kia Sedona, Brakes, Van
#141 of 208 It pays to own a Kia and not in a good way
Jul 01, 2009 (3:03 pm)
I have a 2005 Sedona. The first indication of trouble started w/ our having to show Kia our receipt of proof to the same dealership location we bought the car at that we did in fact buy that $900 rust protection unit before they would install it. Since than we've had to replace and/or repair the following: Front Headlight replaced because of condensation, Juttering feeling upon braking especially on a decline, blew us off "verbally" stating that's the way the brakes are, A/C Unit had a mildew and mold smell coming from vents, dealership did something leaving a vinegar smell (taken in 2x's), Cover to ashtray on front replaced - would not stay closed. Again Brake problems, told by the service mgr. rotors needed to be replaced they were "blue", car was kept till the next day only to be told rotors weren't replaced just machined, new pads, belts replaced (2x's) at 9200 and 24000 (At my expense). Waited at the dealership over 8 hours only to be told by the office clerk that the hold up was that the 1 mechanic actually left early because he had a dentist appt. Replacement of tires. Automatic windows motor replaced wouldn't stopped working (under warranty thank god). In these hard economical times having to pay the monthly car loan, its insurance and unreal maintenance cost to repair things unheard of for a "new" car just stuns me. I found out from someone who works in the auto business that when Kia first opened shop in Hawaii they had no qualified or certified mechanic to work on their cars. This car and dealing w/ this dealership and it's way of operating just took the "joy" out of having a new car. Why because it cost like an old car.
Does anyone know what it means when the service mgr. tells you your rotors are "blue" and need to be replaced but then they don't replace them?
#142 of 208 Re: KIA SEDONA CRAPPY SERVICE AND BRAKES [onehotmama294]
Jul 04, 2009 (3:19 pm)
Just so you know everybody I am not one rich girl. But if I have to wait for a big corporation to take care of my own life that will never happen or even if it will it might be too late. So I prefer to spend 700$ because is my life at stake and I need those brakes in order not to have an accident. And I had to put in balance what is more important: waiting and whining at the Kia to change my brakes or wait to die in an accident and do something about it.
So I saved up and spent the money for a good cause: my own life. I think is the best money somebody can spend if you don't see any relief in sight.
Obviously is not the perfect best car in the world. I've seen BMW's being towed for mechanical problems. I've seen cars that are twice as expensive as my car having more problems that I will ever experience. Is not only Kia. There are other makes of cars that have their own issues. Luckily for me mine it was fixable.
Life is too short to wait for the big corporations or the government to fix stuff for me. I always look for solutions closer to home so to speak. If I just sit and whine about something is not necessary that somebody will come and help. I have to help myself first. I am a disabled veteran. Life is a challenge every day for me and I take a day at a time. I am trying to enjoy what I can because life is too short to sit down and whine when I can do something about it. Government and corporations don't give a rat's ass on this kind of problems. I chose to invest my energy in things that I can control rather than the ones I cannot.
I am blessed with nice people at my dealership. I get nice treatment and most of the times they don't even charge me for the courtesy check-up. I don't know where you live but I would invite you over to my dealership in my town, Tyler TX.
My advice: try to change your dealership and seek better customer service. Change your brakes yourself. I'm not saying is cheap, but hey, how much is your life worth?
#143 of 208 did you saw the grand Caravan
Jul 04, 2009 (3:25 pm)
Try to see how many problems with transmission has the Caravan. There is no perfect car.
Jul 11, 2009 (8:31 pm)
If I can give you all a bit of advice don't ever go to a dealer for brake repair. They will charge you often more then double what other shops will. If the item is not warranty go to a good local service shop or brake shop. Also, get multiple quotes as often women get ripped off much more then men due to lack of general knowledge about these parts.
#145 of 208 Re: [lavrishevo]
Jul 13, 2009 (7:00 am)
I agree. In my case my car is under warranty and I cannot afford to play it other than safe. Plus, the guy that I know in service is very nice I negotiate deals all the time there. And they know I am not a "regular" woman that I know few things about cars. I think for 50$ a wheel to change drum and pads they didn't abuse me. And if something happens they will have it in their records that I did all the regular maintenance that is required by warranty. They can never say that I went to a service that they don't agree on because it doesn't have Kia certified mechanics. I am covering my behind that is all.
#146 of 208 Re: [lavrishevo]
Jul 28, 2009 (4:05 pm)
I agree to some point BUT when we had to have our brakes serviced after 3 weeks of buying it new that problem is not on the buyer but on the dealer. We own a 2005 sedona and are still fighting the brake problems. After a year and a half they wanted to start charging us for this. We have a 120 mile round trip so yes now we have our brakes fixed in town but they cannot fix a problem that is caused by a vehicle that weighs to much for the braking system. Kia has to be responsible for this but they will not recall this problem. We are in a sinking ship and no one will give a good trade value on a kia sedona made before '07.
Jul 28, 2009 (8:49 pm)
You probably mean 2006 as that was the redesign year. I feel you on your brake problems. I would have never touched the 05 and under Sedona personally. Even on my 06 I needed front pads at 15k. I went on e-bay purchased the best aftermarket pads available for all 4 wheels and cross drilled slotted rotors all for under $300.00 shipped then had Pepboys install everything for 150.00 bucks. Best thing in the world for the van. No more brake float, excellent stopping power and much better longevity. I would check it out for your van too if your going to keep it.
#148 of 208 Not a bad car if I actually get to use it! Don't buy KIA
Aug 10, 2009 (10:44 pm)
We purchased this car new in January 2008 (Model Year 2007). We liked it at first but the honeymoon started to wear out in Sept 2008 when the shifter assembly broke. The dealership happened to have the part in stock which I thought was odd but nice. Then Oct 2008 the battery died. OK so I am not happy at this point but still OK with the ownership experience because all cars have some things that need to be repaired, right? Then ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE!
May 2009: Oil change at a local shop (because they are $15 less than the dealer and are much more pleasant) when they indicate the presence of leaks from the transmission pan and power steering. The van has 20k miles on it at this time. We are also having brake issues (loud squealing) that the dealer dismissed as "brake dust". They cleaned them and as I was driving off the lot that evening, it was immediately back. The power steering pump had to be ordered so I knew I would be back.
July 2009: Pump has arrived so I return with squealing brakes and a heavy vibration. While not a mechanic, I am not the village idiot either. I knew we had rotor/pad issues. So they "did me a favor" and forced the replacement of the rotors as they were "out of spec". They cleaned everything and send me on my way and I return a whole 6 days later with the same issues. We are getting ready to go out of town and the POS (piece of sh&t) is acting up again! Well the brakes are now showing abnormal wear and rotors are glazed so they do another repair and when I read this comment on the service order it was all I could do to keep myself contained "DPSM Authorized one time only goodwill/Kia pays half of the cost of rear pads and rotors. It is the opinion of the District Parts and Service Manager ((that never even looked at the car)), based on inspection of braking system, that driving habits could be the cause of this recurring issue." OK so what this tells me is that you can't use the brakes on your van....this 2nd visit in July took 2 days since they were waiting on this Regional person to come to the dealership and I was told he never made so how did he know what the brakes looked like??
Aug 2009: So here it is August and the car was in the shop on 7/30 and back again on 8/7 for guess what? A Dead Battery and.....BRAKES!!! So they look at them, say they look fine and I head out of town to go camping. I have never felt so unsafe in a car! The grinding, groaning, vibrations and squealing made me feel that we were all in danger. The van will now only be used for city driving and the Lemon law complaint has been filed!
Do you research and avoid these cheap cars like the plague! I had a Camry before we were forced to upgrade to a larger vehicle and all I can say it Toyota makes a good product that you have to pay for but at the same time this is as close to HELL as you can get. I honestly am not sure if I can say how unhappy I am with this van and how totally disappointed I am with the way the dealer has "serviced" the issue.
#149 of 208 Re: Not a bad car if I actually get to use it! Don't buy KIA [azbakers]
Aug 10, 2009 (10:48 pm)
The KIA slogan makes me chuckle (it is the only way to relieve the irritation): "The Power to Surprise". Man they sure live that up to the max...I am surprised how many times my car has been in the shop for the same issue!
Aug 11, 2009 (7:27 pm)
I am not sure how you guys are driving your van but all I have had to do with my 2006 is front pads at about 16K. This is because I drive 90% stop and go on a small island with not much highway use. Now I am at 26K with no problems at all.
Sounds like driver abuse. Maybe your riding your brakes or stomping on them and not breaking them in. You can't treat the breaks in a heavy mini-van the same way you can in a much lighter sedan.