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Sedans BMW 3-Series BMW 3-Series AWD - Pros and Cons
74 messages, Last post on Feb 04, 2008 at 4:16 PM
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Replying to: golfnut802 (Jan 16, 2008 9:58 am) If you do not care about the driving feel (which is lighter in RWD) and feel more confident with the AWD, go for it. If the sport weighs in more to your liking , RWD should be your choice. Drive both. Regards, OW |
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Replying to: golfnut802 (Jan 16, 2008 9:58 am) |
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Replying to: shipo (Jan 16, 2008 7:26 am) I'm neither pro nor con AWD. Lifelong New Englander/skier, FWD and all-season tires have served me well. Well, 'till this year. For the first time ever, I decided I needed snows for my TL. Tire Rack: "Winter Performance" Dunlop WinterSport MS3 tires mounted/balanced on alloy wheels (alloys only $25 more expensive than a steel wheel/cover combo) shipped to my installer for < $800. $35 to mount the four of 'em and the shop put my Toyos in the Tire Rack storage sacks I also purchased and put two of 'em in the trunk, two in the back seat and now, until mid-April, they live in my garage. Of course, I haven't had a chance to drive in the snow yet... 
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Replying to: golfnut802 (Jan 16, 2008 8:26 am) Hmmm, a few hundred bucks? I paid $1,007 for the set, I sold the set for $400, and as a result I didn't have to pay for either a second set of factory tire replacements ($1,200) and I didn't have to pay for the AWD upgrade (typically about $1,900). Said another way, I did spend $604 so that I didn't have to spend $3,100. By my calculations, that means that I saved $2,504. Am I missing something? Oh yeah, and I got a car that is, IMHO, safer to drive in the snow (i.e. better braking and handling) than an otherwise identical all-season shod AWD car. "Also, I doubt a place is going to store 4 sets of tires for you over the course of a few years, and change the tires out twice a year, all for free, just to make profit on the initial tire sale." Shop around; I think you'll be surprised. I had my dealer offer to do the swap and store thing for a very nominal fee (like $100 per year, IIRC) for tires that they didn't sell, and all three of the tire dealers in the next town over offer the full enchilada for "free" if you buy the set from them. Best Regards, Shipo
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Replying to: akv25 (Jan 16, 2008 9:05 am) |
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Jan 16, 2008 2:34 pm) http://www.caranddriver.com/columns/3467/snow-tires-still-beat-four-wheel-drive.- html http://www.caranddriver.com/columns/8215/slowly-but-surely-horsepower-is-killing- -front-drive.html |
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Replying to: akv25 (Jan 16, 2008 5:19 pm) By the way, if snows are over-inflated (which might have been the case with the TT, no way to know), effectiveness goes to hell. In the TT case, I would have pulled off to the side and use my trusty tire gauge to reduce the air to 28 PSI. Better traction for making it alive in those conditions. Just my opinion. Regards, OW
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Replying to: circlew (Jan 17, 2008 4:08 am) |
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Replying to: circlew (Jan 17, 2008 4:08 am) |
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Replying to: akv25 (Jan 16, 2008 5:19 pm) "The fact is that everything that makes a tire grip tenaciously when the pavement is dry and warm works against that tire in the snow." So it really doesn't matter if you have 10 Wheel Drive. It's about the tires, bottom line. I had an Old Toronado with oversize studded snows in Aspen Colorado some years ago---it was unstoppable. A good friend of mine works in Tahoe and he uses an Audi Quattro with 4 chunky snows. He does much better than the 4X4 SUVs unless they are chained.
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