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BMW 3-Series AWD - Pros and Cons

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real world experience with rear wheel drive by birdrules
Jan 15, 2008 (7:36 pm)
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I'm considering '05 325 but looking at the previous posts, seems like the jury is still out there on whether the AWD really trumps over RWD in snowy conditions. I agree that it comes down to the driver but would be very interested to hear about experiences of driving RWD just when it starts snowing on the roads and it tends to be most slippery.
 
Thanks,
Concerned Chicago Driver
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Re: real world experience with rear wheel drive [birdrules] by shipo
Jan 15, 2008 (8:04 pm)
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Replying to: birdrules (Jan 15, 2008 7:36 pm)

I lived in Chicago for 13 years before spending a dozen in NYC and now another 5 in New Hampshire. The snow, ice and road crap is far worse than what is typical for the Chicago area, especially because of the rolling hills and winding roads around here. That said, my RWD 530i was perfectly in its element when the snow flew with the simple addition of 4 winter tires. Our first winter up here our town got 114" of snow, and that car never missed a beat.
 
I told you that as a means of illustrating that you'll do just fine in the Chicago area with a RWD BMW, just remember to buy yourself a set of winter skins (way cheaper than AWD).
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: real world experience with rear wheel drive [birdrules] by roadburner
Jan 16, 2008 (6:29 am)
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Replying to: birdrules (Jan 15, 2008 7:36 pm)

My experience mirrors Shipo's; we've had a 1998 3 Series and a 1997 5 Series and both handled the slippery stuff just fine when fitted with winter tires. One time I was driving the 3er in a light drizzle as the temperature dropped below freezing. I wasn't even aware that the road was becoming slick until a Jeep Cherokee in front of me spun 360 degrees and ended up in the median...
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Re: real world experience with rear wheel drive [shipo] by roadburner
Jan 16, 2008 (6:30 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Jan 15, 2008 8:04 pm)

just remember to buy yourself a set of winter skins (way cheaper than AWD).
 
Not to mention more fun...
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Re: real world experience with rear wheel drive [shipo] by golfnut802
Jan 16, 2008 (7:07 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Jan 15, 2008 8:04 pm)

I would have to respectfully disagree that getting RWD and winter tires is way cheaper thatn AWD.
If you get winter tires, you have the cost of the tires as well as the cost of mounting them prior to winter and switching them back out in the fall. Add up those costs over the years, and things tend to even out. Plus, with AWS there is no hassle of getting teh tires switched out twice a year.
 
Just my thoughts, I went with AWD.
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Re: real world experience with rear wheel drive [golfnut802] by shipo
Jan 16, 2008 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: golfnut802 (Jan 16, 2008 7:07 am)

Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. When I said that buying a set of winter tires was way cheaper than paying for the AWD option, what I should have said was "Buying a set of winter wheels AND tires was way cheaper. A complete set of tires and wheels will cost roughly $1,200, and many shops will even store them and swap them twice a year for free.
 
In my case, I had a 3 year lease on a 530i SP, and I paid $1,007 for my set of wheels and tires delivered. I then swapped them myself twice a year and stored the off-season set in my basement. When I turned the car back in I found that my factory tires still had between 1mm and 2mm of tread beyond the minimum, and as such I didn't have to spend over $1,200 on a new set of skins before turning the car in. Instant savings of $193. But wait, that's not all! I was then able to turn around and sell the used set of winter wheels and tires for $400.
 
When I said "way cheaper", I meant, "way cheaper".
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: real world experience with rear wheel drive [shipo] by golfnut802
Jan 16, 2008 (8:26 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Jan 16, 2008 7:26 am)

We will have to agree to disagree. While your 'best case' scenario has you saving a few hundred bucks (yahooo!!!), many of would not want to store the extra tires, or take the time to change them out twice a year. There is a lot to be said for the convenience factor.
 
Also, I doubt a place is going to store 4 sets of tires for you over the course of a few years, and change the tires out twice a year, all for free, just to make profit on the initial tire sale. Just does not seem worth it for them. Maybe you are buddies with them. Plus, who wants to wait around a couple hours everytime you have that done.
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Re: real world experience with rear wheel drive [golfnut802] by circlew
Jan 16, 2008 (8:40 am)
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Replying to: golfnut802 (Jan 16, 2008 8:26 am)

That's why the AWD sales are growing....low maintenance!
 
I just rotated my tires ('06 330xi) so I guess I'm guilty of too much work. The AS are fine in the snow but definitely one step lover than AWD + snows for ultimate grip. I am sure RWD with snows will do just fine.
 
In a twisted sort of way, you can have fun driving AWD, specifically the 3-series. I am tempted with the 335d soon to arrive in the US, however. Loads of torque and that great chassis....sweet and 27 MPG to boot.
 
Look Ma, no AWD!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: real world experience with rear wheel drive [golfnut802] by akv25
Jan 16, 2008 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: golfnut802 (Jan 16, 2008 8:26 am)

I use snows travelling up and down Wisconsin and also in parts of UP of Michigan on my RWD. I use snows close to six months of the year so my tires can be expetcted to last twice as long.
 
As far as driving in the snow goes, I have never had any problems except for plowing some snow with the front air dam. And I've driven on a 30 degree incline when my boss' A8 with A/S started spinning. And yes, I get better gas mileage and more acceleration than an AWD.
 
The last reason that I use snows is that they stop better and have excellent grip turning corners. An AWD with A/S will definitely not stop better, considering the added wieght of the AWD setup, but turning corners is a toss-up since there is AWD.
 
My two cents!
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Re: real world experience with rear wheel drive [akv25] by golfnut802
Jan 16, 2008 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: akv25 (Jan 16, 2008 9:05 am)

Now you all have me rethinking me decision to get AWD!

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