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#56 of 91 Re: 2006 Kia Rio Lemon [atxkia]
Feb 29, 2012 (11:15 am)
First of all, your Kia Dealer gave you a pant load of doo-doo with that crap about a faulty seatbelt part. My 2006 Kia Rio5 has the same airbag indictor problem TWICE! Both times it was a Airbag Sensor located in the bottom seat cushion. Both the drivers side and passenger side failed 4 years apart. Both were covered under the 5 year bumper to bumper warranty but in both cases, the entire bottom seat cushion needed to be replaced because the sensor is built into it and is not a separate part. My new 2012 Kia Rio5 just 3 months old with hardly 2000 miles driven just had the Airbag indicator stay on again. This time they had to replace the entire passenger side Airbag Curtain. Something odd about the Rio and its faulty Airbag systems. You don`t want to know what it would cost if the vehicle was no longer under warranty.
#57 of 91 Any New Rio Owners?
Mar 14, 2012 (3:28 pm)
This board is dead. Is there no one who has bought a new 2012 Rio 5? It is among the three finalists for me (Fit and Yaris). I can't find a reason to remove the Rio from my list other than the less than stellar rear window visibility. I'm also disappointed that the rear headrests don't fold down out of the way, but I can easily remove them for better visibility. Come on... how about some action here.
#58 of 91 Re: Any New Rio Owners? [maxx4me]
Mar 26, 2012 (6:10 am)
unfortunately this forum is not very active due to its very poor and outdated format. Can't give you a link due to the forum requirements.
However, what feedback are you looking for if you have narrowed it to three models, try them all out and decide for yourself.
#59 of 91 Re: Any New Rio Owners? [maxx4me]
Jul 09, 2012 (2:28 pm)
Since it sounds like you had a Maxx, I'm responding, even though I'm sure you pulled the trigger on your purchase months ago.
I gave my Maxx to my daughter (actually sold it to her at about 1/3 the normal price) after her car unexpectedly died. Had hoped to get either the new Kia, Hyundai or Chrysler 100 compact hatches when they came out during the next year. Also would have looked at the Buick Encore. Fit (which I drove) and Sonic were also on my short list. Was waiting for more Sonic turbos to be available.
I bought a dark blue 5 door EX (something that's not even supposed to be available). Back up camera, power folding mirrors, etc. Much nicer interior than the Fit IMO although (obviously) less space.
Took it on a 2000+ plus trip last week and found it to be as good a road car as my Maxx (which was a favorite), more comfortable for long drives than an 07 Optima that I owned. Got 33 mpg in mostly highway (though some city) driving, with five tanks over 35 mpg. Best tank 37.89 mpg. Not bad considering the 100 degree plus temperatures and constant A/C use.
Missed the Maxx's low end power-- if the Rio isn't reving it can be pretty dead. Think I'll like this car. Lots of kit for the $$$. Excellent build quality. Very composed for a sub-compact. Six hundred mile daily drives without undue tiredness-- not bad for a 67 year old. Car looks great IMO.
#60 of 91 my experience as owner
Sep 12, 2012 (5:30 am)
Purchased my 2012 RIO 5 LX (with auto tx) last January and since then I put nearly 16,000 miles on it, including a cross-country trip, often at 70mph. Also a lot of city driving. So far the vehicle has performed as advertised and I've had zero problems. Been very impressed with the overall quality (particularly since it's on the low end of the price scale) and how quiet it is at highway speeds. The ride was a bit stiff at first (for my taste) but soften up adequately after a few thousand miles. The car did achieve the touted gas mileage. Historically I've had larger cars, and this is my first subcompact and first Kia. It deserves high marks across the board in my opinion.
#61 of 91 New Rio Owner
Oct 19, 2012 (6:53 am)
Just purchased a '13 Rio hatchback the EX + Convenience Pkge . . . was what we wanted , but ended up with the demonstrator - 400 mi on clock + ECO Stop&Go + electric mirror + mats, wheel locks, etc. $17.4 seemed to good a deal to pass up. Kansas City. (300 of those miles were a transfer from another dealer - rather than tire-kickers, and its been on the dealers lot for 4 months.)
So far so good! Now bear in mind the old drive was 91 Jeep - reliable but getting to rusty. Clearly the Rio AVO package is too intelligent for us, but we're learning.
I'm not a total fan of the Stop&Go . . . my mechanical mind says just one more thing to go wrong - but I can see there are times (like a lot of stop/go traffic light driving - with long waits for the green) where it would be good - but when its lots of Stop signs (where , ah, one stops, looks, and then goes) that it would be engine stop and then almost immediately restart, and that I don't like. Wish the On/Off switch would remember the last setting, rather than having to turn it Off each time I get in .
Only done 100mi so far - so actual mpg is unknown. However - clearly it will be better than the 16mpg of the jeep and one must remember there is a direct connection between mpg and the use of the right foot!!
ONE PROBLEM : When you press the key to lock the car - on the 2nd press the horn toots. How do you turn that toot off? The manual does not seem to address this. (our 05 Town&Country had the same, and it could, and is, turned off)
#62 of 91 Re: New Rio Owner [aert]
Oct 19, 2012 (7:50 pm)
don't press it twice, it locks on the first press, that's just a reminder that its happened - does the same on my Soul. See page 4/8 in your owners manual.
#63 of 91 High MPG driving the 2012 Kia Rio 5 EX
Nov 04, 2012 (8:28 am)
This post is for those of you NOT getting the 40 MPG mileage you hoped you would get.
It contains detailed information about the methods I am currently using to get between 37.5 and 41.5 miles per gallon measured by gallons used at the pump divided by miles driven.
This Kia has been a challenge to get the mileage up but it is defintely designed to use the ECO in combination with the outstanding Kia cruise control to get you the high mpg numbers.
Here is what you must do.
1.Turn the ECO button on and leave it on.
My heart goes out to you who have the engine off at lights feature and it is not working well for you-our Kia does not have that.
2.Push on the gas pedal slowly and evenly.
Sudden pushing on the gas pedal will immediately turn off the ECO software and it will stay off for minutes.
The cruise control WILL NEVER turn off the ECO software even when it downshifts twice going up hills.
Apparently,the engine computer knows when the cruise is engaged and locks the ECO software on all the time.
3.Driving through the dead spot in acceleration that happens from 20 to 40 miles per hour going up a hill,you should simply push slowly and gently down on the throttle until the transmission downshifts once-and hold the throttle where it is at that point.
The engine transmission computer will then hold the downshift and the car will climb the hill on it's own.
Engage the cruise as soon as you reach the speed you want.
4.USE THE CRUISE CONTROL-the Kia cruise control is a high quality unit but you must set it at the proper speeds to get the most out of it.
5.Set the cruise control using the 2 AND 7 RULE.
Never set your cruise control at a number ending in 0 or 5-the transmssion will downshift all the time if you do.
Here are your cruise control miles per hour set points.
22-27-32-37-42---( 47 my favorite)--- 52 -57---- ( 62 the best highway mileage miles per hour setting in the car)-( 67 my late for work but still o.k. mileage setting)-72-( 77 watch the mpg tumble).
The very best highway gas mileage cruise control number is 62 miles per hour.
6.I always use more psi cold in my tires then any car manufacturer recommends.
I have not had a tire failure doing this in over thirty years.
I run 40 psi cold in this Kia.
My experience in using the higher psi cold number is that the car drives better,rolls on much easier,gets better mileage and the tires last longer.
You will get slighty less wet weather traction but you will feel that sooner and much better through the steering wheel.
When it snows I drop the cold inflation to between 36 and 38 psi cold.
NOTE-IF YOU DO THIS,YOU ARE SOLELY RESPONDSIBLE -NOT ME,NOT KIA,NOT EDMUNDS,NOT KUMHO OR WHOEVER YOUR TIRE MANUFACTURER IS.
If you have any doubts about this simply use the manufacturer recommended setting but make sure you keep that inflation maintained right at that number-do not let the air leak down as it will over several weeks in any tire.
7.Set your speedometer display at the average miles per gallon setting.
Press the button to miles driven A-then miles driven B-then Range-then avg mpg.
Then you can get an updated average of your miles per gallon and see how your driving in affecting that.
The miles per gallon setting that updates by the second is way-way too fast to be useful.
8.Maintain your car.
Check the tire air pressure weekly-change your oil and especially make sure you change your air filter when required.
A dirty air filter will destroy your gas mileage.
9.Drive in the right lane as much as possible.
Especially on the interstates,you will be one of the slowest cars out there-just let the wasteful gas users get by you.
Even at 62 mph setting though,I still come up on people driving at 55 mph doing the same thing I am.
I simply early merge one lane left -go around them and get back into the right lane as soon as possible.
10.Premium gas makes this car run slightly smoother and quieter,have a little more midrange power,slightly more high rev power,get maybe another mile per gallon or two and downshift slightly less but it is not necessary.
You have to decide if that's worth another $4.00 a tank to you.
I would say buy the premium gas before you put any octane booster in the car-they can destroy the emissions sensors in the car.
If you want a less noisy motor-you would be well served by buying a name brand regular like Exxon or Sunoco whether whether you buy regular,midgrade or premium is what you are willing to spend.
11.Keep as much weight out of the car as possible-it defintely makes a difference.
I have 150 pounds of tools in the back of our Kia in two tool boxes and it costs me about a mile and a half a gallon. I wish I had a choice but I work with alot of thieves.
O.k,to wrap this up.
-Use the Eco button always-
-Make sure you use the throttle very easily-
-Use the cruise control as soon as you can as much as you can-Make sure you use the cruise control set points I told you ( obviously-not all Kia's will drive the same- experiment to find your best cruise set points)-
-Drive in the right lane as much as possible,just to stay out of the way of the other speeding traffic to keep you from having to turn the cruise off-
-Keep your tire inflation maintained as well as your car-
-Keep the weight out of the car if possible-
Kia engineers were tasked with giving us a way to get great gas mileage out of this Rio and here's what I found they put in the car to get that.
I hope this helps you get much better gas mileage and I hope this let's you like the Kia more.
The only problem we have had so far worth mentioning is the UVO radio died and that was changed for free by a dealership that did a great job and cleaned the car in the process.
Good luck with your MPG numbers-let's stick it to the gas companies if we can.
#64 of 91 Re: High MPG driving the 2012 Kia Rio 5 EX [worknman]
Nov 04, 2012 (9:07 am)
Ha-Ha-make that miles driven divided by gallons of gas used.DUH.
#65 of 91 High MPG driving the 2012 Kia Rio 5 EX
Nov 04, 2012 (12:09 pm)
Nice research worknman - all pretty sound advice - but I didn't understand #5
So - 3 Rios side by side with cruise's set at 57, 60 and 62 - they're all in 6th but with different rpm's - but over the same stretch of road the one in the middle will downshift and the others won't ?
Have you heard - Apparently the EPA thinks Kia has overstated their mpg figures - and Kia will be sending us rebates ! Google